Sasquatch Ontario
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Have him take an independent observer with him. We take many. No excuses. I see no evidence of that to date. His evidence does not match my experiences or the US colleagues I have discussed this with. I give all people the benefit of the doubt. He can redeem himself. The name Nephatia was the final straw for me. Too convenient. I volunteer to go on my own dollar. Lets see what happens. I always put my money where my mouth is. Thanks, Mike SIR
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Oh yes, and he is invited to come to one of my areas as well on his own dollar. I have more than one. Sasquatches aren't afraid of strangers when their with some one they trust. I take people with me all the time. No more excuses. I heard enough of them lately. The fact is many in the US are leery of him and his latest offering. The latest post Nephatia he posted only made it worse. We all trusted him in the beginning. The fact is his experiences and evidence do not match what others are finding. If I am wrong I will admit it, but at this time until he proves otherwise, I stand by what I say. I spoke to 4 other US researchers and organizations as well. All are saying the same thing. Thanks, Mike SIR
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Or better yet, lets send Matt, Ranae, Bobo and Cliff. The Australians took them out and proved their case for the Yowie quite well. So should the Canandians.
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First off, about me, two things I do not care much. Hoaxers and people who want to shoot these people. Now that's been said.
Always look at a Bigfoot, Yowie or Yeti group or person by his actions. I have a whole multitude of investigators. Why are they with SIR? Its because they have been in the field and experienced things on their own with us. I have nothing to hide. I am here to educate others respectfully and help these people in the woods if I can. Plain and simple. I seek the truth only and whatever comes with that. Also, I do not expect perfection. Mistakes are made some times. Admit an error and your good with me if it happens.
Tony Lombardo called me out of the blue from California saying he was making a documentary. Asked if I would comment or help. I said I would. He came here on his own dollar and we had never heard of each other and never meant. I took him to one of my spots and he had his own experiences. You can read about him on our website at the tab Another's Perspective. Its totally his view on one of our trips. He has since moved to Colorado and joined SIR all on his own.
Robin Roberts and Jon Roberts saw and made a report to me. We had never meant. I helped them find their group. Now they are with SIR.
Dave Ottke came from the BFRO to come and help with SIR because of his experiences with us in the field.
I drove all the way to Oklahoma and meant a lady named Arla Williams. She had nothing to hide. I had never meant her and did not know her. She said she knew Sasquatches. I went and saw them for myself and she did.
And it goes on and on.
Hoaxers will never do this because they can't.
I don't want to argue with anyone. I love good evidence, but if your not honest you will not find peace in a lie in the Bigfoot world. Its always been that way.
Always look at a Bigfoot, Yowie or Yeti group or person by his actions. I have a whole multitude of investigators. Why are they with SIR? Its because they have been in the field and experienced things on their own with us. I have nothing to hide. I am here to educate others respectfully and help these people in the woods if I can. Plain and simple. I seek the truth only and whatever comes with that. Also, I do not expect perfection. Mistakes are made some times. Admit an error and your good with me if it happens.
Tony Lombardo called me out of the blue from California saying he was making a documentary. Asked if I would comment or help. I said I would. He came here on his own dollar and we had never heard of each other and never meant. I took him to one of my spots and he had his own experiences. You can read about him on our website at the tab Another's Perspective. Its totally his view on one of our trips. He has since moved to Colorado and joined SIR all on his own.
Robin Roberts and Jon Roberts saw and made a report to me. We had never meant. I helped them find their group. Now they are with SIR.
Dave Ottke came from the BFRO to come and help with SIR because of his experiences with us in the field.
I drove all the way to Oklahoma and meant a lady named Arla Williams. She had nothing to hide. I had never meant her and did not know her. She said she knew Sasquatches. I went and saw them for myself and she did.
And it goes on and on.
Hoaxers will never do this because they can't.
I don't want to argue with anyone. I love good evidence, but if your not honest you will not find peace in a lie in the Bigfoot world. Its always been that way.
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Mike, I agree with themanfromglad...
Just because your experiences are different, and you may not agree with his methods does not make you the definitive alpha and omega when it comes to Bigfoot, Sasquatch, Yeti, Yeren, Yowie or any other hairy creature. You are spamming the heck out of this thread and proving nothing but how closed minded you are... ask themangromglad - I am not biased toward him as we have had a difference of opinion as of late, but I seek the truth, and as such I don't like being told what I believe. DO NOT impose your personal point of view on to me or others. I will decide if I believe this guy to be a hoax, and I for one do not. Themanfromglad has stated what I believe also and why I disagree with your thesis. You've basically said "He's a hoaxer because he doesn't take anyone with him and make a big song and dance about it all... and blah blah blah... " Greater success can sometimes be achieved in fewer numbers... If a tree falls in the woods and nobody is around to hear it, it still makes a sound... my point is just because he doesn't have an entrage or fan club with him to showboat to and flash his success doesn't mean that he's hoaxing...
As far as the "Finding Bigfoot" cast getting involved - I'm sorry, whilst they remain true to their cause it is hard to take their research as seriously due to a TV series format of every single episode, which I understand that they fight with their producers on a regular basis, I would only take their research on a credible level if they did something independent of the TV show. I'm not saying they've sold out, but I do find it hard to swallow some of what they put out there due to the fact that they are endorsed by an entity that is chasing ratings...
And in reference to that picture link, the creature that is being killed is the Nephilim, which resembles one of our hairy mates. There is other literature and records depicting them as being covered in hair also. Larger in stature and covered in hair, exhiled to the furtherest reaches of Earth to be concealed and kept separate to live out a lonely and reclusive life sounds very familiar, but I guess it just depends on how far you dig into it as to what you find.
Cheers,
Stu...
Just because your experiences are different, and you may not agree with his methods does not make you the definitive alpha and omega when it comes to Bigfoot, Sasquatch, Yeti, Yeren, Yowie or any other hairy creature. You are spamming the heck out of this thread and proving nothing but how closed minded you are... ask themangromglad - I am not biased toward him as we have had a difference of opinion as of late, but I seek the truth, and as such I don't like being told what I believe. DO NOT impose your personal point of view on to me or others. I will decide if I believe this guy to be a hoax, and I for one do not. Themanfromglad has stated what I believe also and why I disagree with your thesis. You've basically said "He's a hoaxer because he doesn't take anyone with him and make a big song and dance about it all... and blah blah blah... " Greater success can sometimes be achieved in fewer numbers... If a tree falls in the woods and nobody is around to hear it, it still makes a sound... my point is just because he doesn't have an entrage or fan club with him to showboat to and flash his success doesn't mean that he's hoaxing...
As far as the "Finding Bigfoot" cast getting involved - I'm sorry, whilst they remain true to their cause it is hard to take their research as seriously due to a TV series format of every single episode, which I understand that they fight with their producers on a regular basis, I would only take their research on a credible level if they did something independent of the TV show. I'm not saying they've sold out, but I do find it hard to swallow some of what they put out there due to the fact that they are endorsed by an entity that is chasing ratings...
And in reference to that picture link, the creature that is being killed is the Nephilim, which resembles one of our hairy mates. There is other literature and records depicting them as being covered in hair also. Larger in stature and covered in hair, exhiled to the furtherest reaches of Earth to be concealed and kept separate to live out a lonely and reclusive life sounds very familiar, but I guess it just depends on how far you dig into it as to what you find.
Cheers,
Stu...
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Hi Mike
What i was saying is that the hair sample on a cursory examination seemed alot closer to a gorilla than the other great apes
no DNA yet we are hopeful that may happen in the coming months. It is clear they are primates, so are we, so of course there is going to be similarities - even bush babies are primates who have human looking hair (scales only)
From the evidence and photos we have the ones I am studying looks like a gorilla but yet they are their own species, the quest is to find out which but we in our work are at a very exciting stage. As for Finding Bigfoot. We all know thats not what you do, Cliff is a good acquaintance of mine and we talk often, they know it but also some of those things have worked for them privately I am simply suggesting the Yowie appreciates likes a different approach but they still respond to calls from time to time, they are individuals like us each with tier own preference
Interesting, in some new audio I got I have found on a couple of time they have responded to the trailing noise of passenger jets, interesting will post it when I can finish putting it together
Ray
What i was saying is that the hair sample on a cursory examination seemed alot closer to a gorilla than the other great apes
no DNA yet we are hopeful that may happen in the coming months. It is clear they are primates, so are we, so of course there is going to be similarities - even bush babies are primates who have human looking hair (scales only)
From the evidence and photos we have the ones I am studying looks like a gorilla but yet they are their own species, the quest is to find out which but we in our work are at a very exciting stage. As for Finding Bigfoot. We all know thats not what you do, Cliff is a good acquaintance of mine and we talk often, they know it but also some of those things have worked for them privately I am simply suggesting the Yowie appreciates likes a different approach but they still respond to calls from time to time, they are individuals like us each with tier own preference
Interesting, in some new audio I got I have found on a couple of time they have responded to the trailing noise of passenger jets, interesting will post it when I can finish putting it together
Ray
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We will just see how it all pans out and leave it at that. I am sorry if you feel I was out of line. I did not intend to be. I have made my point and you have made yours. I am confident in what I am saying based on the many folks in US and Canada I have spoken to yesterday and today. Lets just wait and see what happens with his work. It will be heavily scrutinized from now on by many. Frankly, after the Rick Dyer(I have a body) fiasco US tolerance of people not being honest is extremely low.
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Hi Mike,
That's OK... I understand that your passionate about it all and I can also understand how hoaxers damage it for the believers out there... I'm sorry if I was aggressive also... I feel passionately about the subject also and in hindsight was a bit angry in what I typed. I hope that it isn't a hoax as based on what I believe it all fits, however I do not interact with either species on a regular basis and could be wrong. I believe my fear would take hold and I would do more damage than good due to my previous experiences so from a scientific, respectful, and courteous standpoint, as much as I would love to go out there, I kinda just don't have the stones to. I'm easing into it all with regular camping trips and hoping to go further into the bush each time... Sorry if I came off as a dick...
Cheers,
Stu
That's OK... I understand that your passionate about it all and I can also understand how hoaxers damage it for the believers out there... I'm sorry if I was aggressive also... I feel passionately about the subject also and in hindsight was a bit angry in what I typed. I hope that it isn't a hoax as based on what I believe it all fits, however I do not interact with either species on a regular basis and could be wrong. I believe my fear would take hold and I would do more damage than good due to my previous experiences so from a scientific, respectful, and courteous standpoint, as much as I would love to go out there, I kinda just don't have the stones to. I'm easing into it all with regular camping trips and hoping to go further into the bush each time... Sorry if I came off as a dick...
Cheers,
Stu
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So is sasquatch ontario a hoaxer!?
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[quote="themanfromglad"][quote="mlj1mlj1"] The paid scoftics hang out at cryptozoology.com (Darwinist's mentioned website) and at James Randi Educational Forum (JREF).
Nah mr. Glad, you´re totally wrong. The board I referred to in the "Roseberg-thread" was our own "AYR - Yowie Controversial Conjecture and Debate". Check the index page, please. And by the way I´m not an American. Could you please be a bit more careful before assuming things? You can always ask if you want more information.
Nah mr. Glad, you´re totally wrong. The board I referred to in the "Roseberg-thread" was our own "AYR - Yowie Controversial Conjecture and Debate". Check the index page, please. And by the way I´m not an American. Could you please be a bit more careful before assuming things? You can always ask if you want more information.
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Perhaps your post here has slipped your mind:Darwinist wrote:themanfromglad wrote:mlj1mlj1 wrote: The paid scoftics hang out at cryptozoology.com (Darwinist's mentioned website) and at James Randi Educational Forum (JREF).
Nah mr. Glad, you´re totally wrong. The board I referred to in the "Roseberg-thread" was our own "AYR - Yowie Controversial Conjecture and Debate". Check the index page, please. And by the way I´m not an American. Could you please be a bit more careful before assuming things? You can always ask if you want more information.
Darwinist Post subject: Re: Photoshop or fair dinkumPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:43 pm
G´day everybody,
Sorry to kill the party.
From memory this is a mock-up (not a hoax), done by Karl Rose, a prolific commentator on cryptozoology.com(skeptic) for an April 1 joke of this year, I think.
If you care, you can look it up. There should be photos, with and and without the "Bigfoot". It was made as a demonstration of the ability of photo shoping.
Food for thoughts..eh?
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Themanfromglad and Stu. I hope your right and I am wrong. I will gladly eat crow. However, understand at SIR, we see eye shine and eyes at our Central Colorado location frequently. In the day they are always black and round, at night they shine red, green, white and blue like stars. This can be seen as well in Ron Petersen's photo to the left of the Aspen tree. Two round black eyes next to each other looking at you. I have always been a staunch advocate of diversity among the Sasquatch, Yowie and Yeti populations like all people they should be immensely diverse. But this huge of eye difference as demonstrated in Nepathia would be a major anomaly in the Sasquatch population, so I have my reservations. Many of my field researchers chose not to visit his you tube page already on their own. It is what it is....
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Guys never any hard feelings here. I like your passionate about what you believe. Like I said, I like you folks down under. I could have conveyed my point better, too. This is the only forum I frequent, except for Autumn Williams Oregon Bigfoot once in a blue moon to help her out and because I like her. She is a nice lady.
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Perhaps your post here has slipped your mind:themanfromglad wrote:Darwinist wrote:themanfromglad wrote: The paid scoftics hang out at cryptozoology.com (Darwinist's mentioned website) and at James Randi Educational Forum (JREF).
Nah mr. Glad, you´re totally wrong. The board I referred to in the "Roseberg-thread" was our own "AYR - Yowie Controversial Conjecture and Debate". Check the index page, please. And by the way I´m not an American. Could you please be a bit more careful before assuming things? You can always ask if you want more information.
Darwinist Post subject: Re: Photoshop or fair dinkumPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:43 pm
G´day everybody,
Sorry to kill the party.
From memory this is a mock-up (not a hoax), done by Karl Rose, a prolific commentator on cryptozoology.com(skeptic) for an April 1 joke of this year, I think.
If you care, you can look it up. There should be photos, with and and without the "Bigfoot". It was made as a demonstration of the ability of photo shoping.
Food for thoughts..eh?[/quote]
Mr. Glad,
Yes I wrote that, so what? I fail to see the problem. It´s just a factual thing, and everybody can check for themselves if they feel for it!
You really have to be a bit more precise in your writings - please elaborate!
My way of thinking is very liberal, and I appreciate everybodies right to express their believes, although I may not share them.
But I do question your reasons to come to this great forum again. In my opinion you are just trolling - again!
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... and by the way this was a post on "Bigfoot Forums" IIRC.
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shine red, green, white and blue like stars.
Interesting that you mention eyes shinning green ! I have only heard of that once before
A woman told Geoff and i that she and her husband both seen a large biped
Creature walk along behind their back fence and look over at them ,
When she told me the eyes were shining green i thought i was being hoaxed
And didnt take the report seriously ,
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DIDGE.....
Interesting that you mention eyes shinning green ! I have only heard of that once before
A woman told Geoff and i that she and her husband both seen a large biped
Creature walk along behind their back fence and look over at them ,
When she told me the eyes were shining green i thought i was being hoaxed
And didnt take the report seriously ,
DIDGE.....
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The others that witnessed me being stalked said they saw green lights or reflectors (non-believers) and asked if I had 2 green laser pointers or a green lens for my torch... they also said that it wasn't the same beam as they were too far apart from each other...
Cheers,
Stu
Cheers,
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I can tell you they seem to emaninate light and not reflect it likes owls and other animals, which I cannot explain. They seem to like no moon best as well, which for seeing their eyes is a bonus. I had eyes shining huge and white in front of me 2-3 weeks ago for about 2 minutes. You want white, its seems the friendliest color. Red more ominous. It walked into camp after everyone went to sleep and started snoring as I sat on back of my trucks tailgate in the darkness. I walked towards the light within 15 feet and sat on the ground. I spoke to the massive one and he said nothing and he walked away. I could see his silhouette only, which was weird. I could hear each foot step as he left. I was pleased. That's what I am getting after 5 years at this spot. They do run into camp after we get in the tent at night and during day when we leave because they move stuff around. We know this because my sons saw a big gray one recently when he was first back to camp. He is fast and 14. He dropped his back pack and ran back to the group behind him. Plates, t/p and wood pile for example are moved allot. I experimented last trip as I do not use trail cams here and put one up and camouflaged it as they look in my truck during the day and night moving stuff about. All the branches covering the camera shell were pulled off the camera on the ground, so I never even turned it on. The found it with ease, so a waste of time as usual. Dealing with Sasquatches is at their pace, which is very cautious and very slow. Most groups I have encountered rarely speak at all even when they seem to like you. You hear mumbling allot in the woods and chatter, but rarely can you make it out. In have heard samurai chatter however because I am in the woods so much. I am patient, you have to be. I have been at this 23 years now and this is farthest I have gotten at this place.
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I would not get overly concerned with eye color as being any indication of friend or foe. I had a couple of 2 to 3 foot tall, little forest people, make no secret that they were running in my direction, as they made a lot of branch breaking noise as they moved through the trees and brush in my direction. They eventually they came to within 6 meters of me and turned on their reddish eyes, raised them to maximum intensity and then lowered the intensity, until they turned their eyes off. Then they just turned and slowly walked away. Even at that distance, my top of the line night vision monocular, could not see a body attached to the eyes. I had an adequate moon to light them up. And you know what that means, of course. The reddish color would be the same as you would get if you put a flashlight behind a fold of skin on your hand.
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Cool experiences folks. Loved them all. Looking at eye shine is a like a gift. We have a ritual. Its the same at Central Co every time. I say a Pavlovian call and leave our food, which we walk in the dark with head lamps on. After the food is placed, we retreat 75 yards or so. You see a slight glow in distance slowly come closer and first one comes and checks what we left. He leaves and gets the others and they all come. We are allowed to watch from about 75 yards. The place I selected has no other ambient light on purpose, but their are houses within 2 miles to the north. In one direction, which is north, some times they hide their eyes against the distant houses. To the south they cannot. Once a small one was behind a fence. I walked up to the fence and its eye was red light looking a laser pin. I spoke and word and it changed to white like it was acknowledging it was me. It was an awesome feeling.
The coolest thing I have seen in Colorado and Oklahoma was when the little ones get excited in red eye mood. They must jump up and down and looks like a laser pin making w's as it fades away.
The coolest thing I have seen in Colorado and Oklahoma was when the little ones get excited in red eye mood. They must jump up and down and looks like a laser pin making w's as it fades away.
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For what it's worth, I have met with Mike P several times and have attended one of his research areas with him. I have the utmost confidence in his assertions and, based on my own encounters, sightings and research over many years, I can assure you Mike is not a hoaxer. The areas he is working have been long known to provide a home for these elusive creatures.
The Canadian Province of Ontario is well populated with Squatch and has been since time out of mind. I have been personally aware of them for over 55 years, since I was confronted by one while taking a shortcut through the forest on my way to kindergarten.
They are all over the place here. You just have to look to find their sign and, if you do, don't be surprised at what you may find.
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G'day Dudlow,
Welcome to our Australian forum. It has been a long time since the BFF.
Neil
Welcome to our Australian forum. It has been a long time since the BFF.
Neil
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Yes, it has been a good while since the BFF. Things there grew so rabid a couple of years ago that I had to take my leave, just for my own peace of mind. And the onslaught of sensationalized bigfoot TV program after program around that time, aimed at a gullible public, also left me disinterested and, quite frankly, downhearted about the whole BF thing.
While my interest has not waned and my experiences and research work have not diminished, I tend to mostly keep my own counsel these days. I maintain a research area in the eastern part of the Province, on a farm occupied by witnesses who now understand what they have been dealing with over the years. That and keeping in touch with some other researchers keeps me as occupied with the subject as I wish to be.
So what's up with you, matey? Keeping well, I hope?
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I have many friends in Canada as well. Many of those Canadians are on the fence on these videos and his work including other researchers in his home province of Ontario. I inquired with some of them as well. Yes, Ontario has many Sasquatches there is no doubt in that. I guess we will just see how it plays out, but in my 23 years of research some of his claims are clearly outside the norm. Even for some of my Native American friends, who know the Sasquatch better than I do.
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I have to ask, has Dudlow seen his video, "Nepathia" that has caused him all this controversy? His thoughts? His take on it? I am curious...
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As a researcher, I ask you what's wrong with this hand print. Its not mine. I enjoyed the look Donjoman, but its all the evidence that counts for me, how its obtained, what it entails based on my experiences. I always give everyone the benefit of the doubt until they present evidence that no longer fits what I know is true myself. I still have my reservations. Like in everything, time will tell with this 2 men as well.
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