Haunted Luca - object throw hoax

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Haunted Luca - object throw hoax

Unread post by Acres » Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:18 pm

G'day all,

Just a heads up to anyone who has been watching the videos on 'Haunted Luca's youtube with Glenn and Caroline. They had been posting quite a lot of alleged activity.

Unfortunately their latest video titled ' Theres our answer " Do Know of the dogman?" ' shows Caroline throwing an object into a puddle and Glenn responding believing it's activity.

At 20 seconds Caroline puts her hand into her pocket, stands sideways to the camera and at 25 seconds you can see her hand swing backwards towards the puddle before the object lands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYUUUfSOmOE

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Unread post by Ron Smith » Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:09 pm

Busted

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Unread post by David » Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:51 pm

Thanks for the heads up. I Can't stand people like that.

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Unread post by Bluedog » Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:21 am

Wow, it's pretty obvious Caroline threw something in the puddle to create the splash.
If you where into faking activity it hard to believe you would post this.
Im not familiar with the channel and haven't looked at any other videos they've posted but it's impossible to take them seriously after that!
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Unread post by adventurer » Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:15 pm

These are the people i just met, i cant watch the video link nore can find it on youtube. I would like to watch as i just met them and did some recent walks with them. We had sat in a circle and balls and rocks were been thrown at all of us from the bush, i got hit on the right hand side of my head and caroline was way to my left sitting. Also when i got that thing hit the back of my head, ron then glenn was behind me and caroline was last.The thing shown on video came from the side and didnt hit ron nore glen. I even took them to dag last week and it was a dead night-nothing got thrown at all.so not saying anyone is wrong or right, i am just confused. Dee

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Unread post by Ron Smith » Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:29 pm

Yep, video has been taken down and/or made private by the looks, I did see one comment on the video before it was taken down which indicated it was a fraud.

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Unread post by Greg W C Sims » Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:16 pm

Very disappointing because I believed they where getting some good interactions with them on camera!

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Unread post by Bluedog » Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:51 pm

Yes, well we have to ask ourselves why did they choose to remove the video or make it private???
I have got a fair idea of why.
The removed video clearly showed Caroline very sneakily lob something into the puddle to make a splash.
I think the location with the puddle was chosen to show clearly that something had been thrown.
One fake video of so called paranormal yowie /dogman activity brings all their other videos fake or not into question.
They haven't done themselves any favours that's for sure.
Hey Dee maybe you could ask them for an explanation if you catch up with them again?
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Unread post by Acres » Thu Jun 23, 2022 4:20 pm

I assumed this would happen. Here's the video.
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Unread post by Austral » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:22 pm

This sort of thing happened many years ago at Humpty Doo in NT. Good friends of mine living just up the road had rocks and gravel landing on the kitchen table and other stuff going on . The media got involved so Kirsty, one of the occupants, faked a rock being thrown and she was caught in a reflection on the camera so the whole incident was deemed fake.
I can tell you the rest of the things going on were NOT fake and Paul Cropper went there and so did the local priest and I’ll bet they would vouch the authenticity.
I don’t know the people in this video but have been watching them and I don’t think everything was faked .

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Unread post by Bluedog » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:55 pm

Yes maybe she just had a brain fart and stuffed up.
You reakon they would have a better look at the material they post on YouTube before putting it up?
I struggle to understand what anyone could possibly gain by hoaxing stuff?
99% of the population think we are crazy believing in this stuff anyway.
But once you hoax something it sticks, just ask Paul McLeod or
Jason Heal.
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Unread post by Acres » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:31 am

They are certainly catching a lot of activity on camera.

I can't comment on the authenticity of the other videos or people's experiences.

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My assumptions/opinions - if you are recording so much authentic activity, why is it necessary to fake activity? Who knows peoples motivations.

The yowie subject is already under enough scrutiny. Experiencers and researchers wouldn't appreciate videos like this bringing the field into disrepute.

It is fuel for sceptics.

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Unread post by Ron Smith » Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:42 pm

Far as I'm concerned, What ever credibility they had went out the window with that one, one minute video.

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Unread post by Bluedog » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:50 pm

What makes them think they are interacting with a yowie?
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Unread post by Acres » Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:41 pm

No idea Bluedog?

I haven't gone through their videos but there is more suspicious behaviour in their latest video called "twigs ,Grass and vines":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzXaMQzBMrE

At 1:17 Glenn laughs and pulls a casuarina (she-oak) branch or similar allegedly from behind his head claiming it landed on his neck.
At 1:20 Caroline is holding a walking stick in her right hand with a casuarina branch also in her fist.
At 1:23 she takes the walking stick in her left hand and puts the casuarina branch in her right hand, taking it behind her back.
At 1:32 her hand returns without the casuarina branch which she has either dropped, behind her, or secreted on her person.

Perhaps it's a casuarina branch from previous alleged activity? That's not shown in the video. The way she removes it from view and hides it behind her back appears suspicious.

It finishes with him saying, 'people aren't going to believe this s**t.'

Ain't that the truth.

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Unread post by Ron Smith » Sat Jun 25, 2022 8:21 pm

That latest video is private or unavailable as well.

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Unread post by Grantly » Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:10 am

I remember watching these videos and the way these people behaved was off. Bad acting and overblown reactions. If you want to see another hoaxer in action, https://www.youtube.com/user/viral6000 This guy gets around but clearly adds in audio and some very poor quality digital "rocks" fly past the screen. He also deletes comments if you politely call him out.
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Unread post by Acres » Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:21 am

I wonder why the video has been made private? (thumb Down)

Here's a clip with just the part I mentioned. I had to clip it as the whole video is too large to attach.
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Unread post by Dean Harrison » Mon Jun 27, 2022 11:36 am

Ron invited us out to the Wappa Dam on Saturday (25-06-2022). He was suspicious about all this stone and stick throwing every single time he went out with Glenn and Caroline.

He noted they always stood and sat behind him.

We arrived at 10.30am. No stone throwing all day. After they arrived, so did the stones. Ron had wandered away with them and the sky started falling. Whereever they went, Ron was being hit in the back with rocks and he immediately radioed us each time. We went down to the location and found Glenn yelling, swearing and urinating at the forest - never seen anything like it. In fact that's all we heard from him all night - abusing the forest. His behavior was bizarre.

Buck got himself in a good position with a thermal, and bingo. Caught them red handed throwing the rocks at Rons back, then pointing out the stones on the ground as if a Yowie had thrown them.

Everyone was extremely angry at what they had been doing. It was disgusting and totally fraudulent. They had been hoaxing Ron for a very long time.

They must had caught on that we knew, because they high tailed it out of there in a hurry. So in essence, we have some very poorly behaved hoaxers here.

So we advise people to wash their hands of these two.

Footage attached. Enjoy.


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Unread post by Rontracker » Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:09 pm

Thanks Dean and once again excellent work from you guys, I had my suspicions but just could not prove it. Ron.

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Unread post by Acres » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:56 pm

Thanks Dean, Buck and all involved!

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Unread post by Dean Harrison » Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:53 pm

It was Buck who used the best initiative. All thanks are to him.

As he said to me - patience will reveal. And it did.

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Unread post by adventurer » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:15 pm

Dean Harrison wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:53 pm
It was Buck who used the best initiative. All thanks are to him.

As he said to me - patience will reveal. And it did.

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Thankyou Dean and buck for taking the time out. I am so dissapointed in them. I am just grateful to acres as well. This has showed me how hard it is to trust again and showed me to how some people are quick to judge others. Thankyou again.

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Unread post by adventurer » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:26 pm

Austral wrote:
Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:22 pm
This sort of thing happened many years ago at Humpty Doo in NT. Good friends of mine living just up the road had rocks and gravel landing on the kitchen table and other stuff going on . The media got involved so Kirsty, one of the occupants, faked a rock being thrown and she was caught in a reflection on the camera so the whole incident was deemed fake.
I can tell you the rest of the things going on were NOT fake and Paul Cropper went there and so did the local priest and I’ll bet they would vouch the authenticity.
I don’t know the people in this video but have been watching them and I don’t think everything was faked .
Hi Austral, i to thought not everything could be faked, but obviously there very good at what they do. I noticed they had a lot of knowledge on yowie behaviour so not once did i ever think it was them that could possibly want to conflict harm. Since the walk they have not called to explain why they did it nore apologise for dragging us in there web.So that shows to me everything was planned and have no morals. So sad but true. stay well.Dee

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Unread post by Austral » Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:44 am

Good on ya Dee , just move on because you’ve got your own thing going on so just get back into that. Its funny how things work because just as im writing this i got a notification!

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Unread post by adventurer » Tue Jun 28, 2022 1:59 pm

I dont think they realise theres a video out thats caught them, i just saw they posted 3 new youtube vids, 2 being out that night with dean and crew with a capture " Note carolines hands position bottom left of screen at all times". https://youtu.be/PHNoKHcdbog. The other video i think showing deans mate on there video
https://youtu.be/2r2n9uQcpIg.
This wont look good for him either being on there videos.

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Unread post by Austral » Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:19 pm

For good karma , we should just turn our backs and get on with it. Jeezus ,am I turning into a hippie?

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Unread post by Buck » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:38 am

Wappa was great.

The hoaxing wasn’t. It wasn’t the reason we were there but was the reason we needed to be there.

We could have been focusing closer to home but the nonsense had to stop. When I videoed, it was with the intention that I would catch whatever was happening according to them. They didn’t know I was there at the time as I had headed back there by myself to achieve my bucket list of a Yowie throwing a rock at me.

They made it sound easy, sit here, insult the bush and the rocks will come. I didn’t insult the bush, I love it. Maybe that’s where I went wrong.

Well nothing happened until they came back down the track with Ron. The AYR team had been with them earlier and no rocks. When the AYR team left with the thermals it was ‘Rocks Thrown’ till kingdom come.

One of the main instigators insists that it’s important he insult ‘Them’ to get ‘results.’

The real insult is to the good people like Ron and others that have afforded them their trust.

The real insult is that we are in an area of research that is easy to ridicule in the mainstream and is difficult to promote, especially when these two clowns are used as a baseline.

For people still wondering how they could have faked all that, maybe some of it was true…

You’ll never know, if they throw six out of seven rocks and a hairy man threw one… which one was it?

You can’t cherry pick what is convenient and disregard the rest. That’s a shame because there were many hours spent out there with them and this batch of research is tainted.

The area isn’t…

Hopefully more research will be done there by serious researchers and the Snake oil salesman and parlour tricksters will be forgotten.
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