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I just wanted to say i'm glad I found this place and have just recently joined this place.

I have since the age of ten and i'm now 31 been interested in this subject as well as the supernatural and paranormal when I picked up a book in class on bigfoot. I also believe when I was 14 to have had two short encounters with the yowie.

My two encounters were when I was travelling with my family in 1994 through NSW to Queensland and we saw a lot of bush while my parents were driving and me and my brother were in the back. The first was when there were a lot of trees along the road, I though I saw something dark coloured suddenly hide behind the trees as the car drove pass. I dont belive it was a kangaroo because it looked to big and i have seen plenty of them while travelling through the country and it walked like we do.

The second was more clear than the first during the same trip. We were travelling through some more bushy areas, but a little bit more open than the first area, I noticed that the area had a lot of tree damage, and at time I didnt know the significance of this, but I noticed something big and hairy and shaped like a silverback gorilla but its hair was like a orangutan near some of these broken trees. My parents noticed it too, and suddenly stopped the car to have a look at it. It watched us too startled as much as we were, it was like looking at something that was ape like but human as well.

Both encounters were during the day I have no idea were we were although I do remember travelling through Hay, forbes, parks, Coonabarabran and Tamworth.

G'day Kezza,

Welcome to the forum and thank you for making the effort to report your experiences. The areas that you have listed certainly have a history of encounters, like many others. Areas of interest that I am aware of are: the Newell Highway; West Wyalong, Ungarie, Weja; and Cowra.

Neil

Thanx for the story Kezza34

If you were going to Coonabarabran to Tamworth and then onto QLD you would have taken the Oxley Hwy / New England Hwy.If you seen a yowie around this area I will love to know.

Thanks Neil.

I use to live in Sydney near the ku-ring-gai chase national park but moved to Adelaide when I was 8 never had an ecounter there. I dont know if that has any activity.

Yowie's/Bigfoot etc interest me as much as the known larger apes that we do know. I remember watching the history of the Gorilla and how before we had actual proof that the Gorilla existed that the native people where the gorilla lives use to tell the British of this secretive ape that lived in the mountains of the congo,but were dismissed as a myth until one was found.

So I believe this creature exists.

Sorry Yowiemrx I cant remember that exact location we went throu a lot of NSW.

Neil, you mention Ungarie above as a place of activity. I spent some time on a property there about 6 years ago that backed onto some rock formations. Didnt see anything just had that odd feeling there. if possible, Id be interested to hear about any sightings around Ungarie, cheers.

tez wrote:Neil, you mention Ungarie above as a place of activity. I spent some time on a property there about 6 years ago that backed onto some rock formations. Didnt see anything just had that odd feeling there. if possible, Id be interested to hear about any sightings around Ungarie, cheers.

G’day Kezza and Tez,

There was a peak in reports from Ku-ring-gai Chase National Park during and shortly after the Sydney bush fires a number of years ago. I was told that RFS firefighters had rocks thrown at them and that they heard unusual sounds in the surrounding bush. More recently, another researcher experienced some strange activity. After Kosta had stopped his car to inspect some tree breaks and bites, a branch had been thrown up from beneath the outcrop that he was standing on, that continued on to hit his vehicle. On another occasion, Kosta spoke to a national parks ranger, who told him that two campers had run screaming down the road towards the ticket gate and had reported being chased by a hairy bipedal animal from their campsite during the early morning. I think that there is also a report in “The Yowie”.



In lived at Weja on a fifteen thousand acre wheat/sheep farm for almost two years from 1980 to 1981. The following is an account that I wrote on the incident.



“After a holiday I returned to the farmhouse to find that the bottom of the corrugated water tank had collapsed from corrosion. On telling the farmer, he replaced it with a much larger concrete tank the next day while I was at school. Doing this required a variety of heavy equipment, including earth moving machinery which together with the spill, churned up the usually parched soil around the house. He also trucked in several loads of water so that we could function until the next rainfall.
The farmhouse was very old, large, traditional and neglected. It reflected the halcyon days when agriculture was highly profitable and much less stressful than the current times where financial and climatic uncertainty dominates. It sat on a slightly raised area in the home paddock, with a southerly aspect and an extensive tract of natural bush to the west and north of the building, providing some relief from the Sun - all year round. The external and internal walls were double brick. The ceilings were about fourteen feet high, almost twice the modern standard height, designed to allow the heat to rise away from the living space. There were many external doors, most arranged with connecting corridors in an east-west and north-south orientation to take advantage of any prevailing cool breezes. There were no locks on the doors, as there was no need for them! There were a number of verandahs, some of them enclosed but, all designed to shade the external walls and provide a cool place to sit. In contrast, winter in the house was extremely bitter!
The services to the house were rudimentary. Water was usually trucked in from town and every effort was needed to conserve it. The electricity supply traversed many kilometres from the main road and even after transformation, there was little current available for cooking or any other useful purpose, including watching the provincial television broadcasts. The telephone line was a party network. Every farmhouse sharing the landline had a unique Morse code call sign. Sometimes there were mistakes made and two parties would pickup in response to a call. Sometimes one of these parties would forget to hang up! Also, with telephone connections being manually connected, it was necessary during the evening for a student to sleep in the telephone exchange in town. This made personal calls in the evening somewhat open!
My bedroom was unusual because it had two doors. One adjoined the kitchen near the southern entrance and the other connected with an enclosed verandah with multiple exits to the outside. The external window had no curtain and looked out across an open verandah to the South where the old corrugated tank had previously stood.
I was home alone the evening that the new tank had been installed. After listening to the radio in my bedroom, I went to bed early. Sometime later, before midnight, I woke for some reason and lay awake. Soon a noise outside the window gained my attention. Listening intently for a few minutes, I thought that I could hear walking. Sometimes when the sheep were in the home paddock, especially on a moonlit night, they would come up the stairs and walk about the verandah. However, that night there were no sheep around the house and anyway, this did not sound like them. It sounded more like a person.
A few minutes later, I heard the walking again. It was very slow and the sound was now coming from the verandah. It was also very heavy because the normally silent, wooden verandah floorboards creaked occasionally. After some more time, I was certain that someone was standing next to my bedroom window and I moved closer to the wall.
Slowly I sat up in bed. Looking out through the bottom left hand corner of the window, I saw nothing but, there was an immediate reaction! Someone accelerated to high speed and jumped off the verandah edge. Similarly, I jumped out of bed and turned on as many lights in the house that I could quickly assess. Stopping in the kitchen, I armed myself with two large cook’s knives. Then, moving to the centre of the house where the telephone was, I kicked open the doors at the end of the corridors and rang the exchange.
Speaking to a student, I asked him to call another teacher who was staying in town. After explaining the urgency of the situation, I was optimistically told that a number of teachers would be at the farm in fifteen minutes. Standing at the intersection of the corridors, I thought that it might be safer to stand outside in the open. Turning on the verandah lights, I stood in an open space away from the house with my knives and looked eagerly towards the South, the direction that the cars would hopefully approach from.
After a nervous wait, I could see the very distant pinpoint glow of several car headlights traveling along the highway. After winding along the dirt roads the cars then turned right and stopped at the main gate. Constantly scanning the area around the paddock where I was standing, there was no sign of the intruder and after a further wait, two cars arrived at the farmhouse. After a brief explanation, I got the drivers to turn their high beams at the external window of my bedroom on the southern verandah. From the southwestern corner of the verandah were a series of very wet, muddy footprints that crossed the verandah boards towards my bedroom window and then, diagonally away to the Southeast.
It could be said that this incident was very worrying. Clearly, there had been an intruder at the house - it couldn’t be anything else! Although the other teachers stayed at the farmhouse that night, I didn’t sleep. On the morning I drove to the nearest main town, bought several bolts for both doors, some screws, curtain fittings and a length of cloth. To the inside of each door I attached a top and bottom bolt, screwed the window closed and installed a curtain across the window.
As with most things, the best range of advice was immediately available from the clientele at the local pub. I remember that there was much discussion, mainly because of the potential seriousness of the situation and the reputation of the district was at stake. The debate continued for many hours and consensus was that the individual was a hermit. Many recounted a history of stories where hermits raided isolated farmhouses at night, terrorising the inhabitants, apparently in an attempt to steal supplies. The local Police Officer, who frequented the pub until closing time required him to leave, similarly agreed with this opinion. As discussion continued, I do not remember anyone being able to specifically identify a responsible hermit, perhaps because they were considered transitory. Still, this explanation seemed reasonable and after all, no one had ever been hurt or killed.”



From experience, it now seems highly probable that the “hermit” was a dooligahl although it would be another twelve years until an encounter with Fatfoot would confirm this. Still, hermits are the most common explanation given by most witnesses who are uncertain of their experiences and seek more rational causes.

Neil

Thanks for the detailed account Neil and glimpses into rural life at that time. Weja would be about 10 kms away from where I stayed at Ungarie along the Lake Cargellicoe Road. From what I saw of the area it didnt seem to have a lot of vegetation but back towards Lake Cowall there seemed to be more substantial bush. The property did have a number of waterholes in rock, quite dry at the time due to drought, that made me think the place would have been quite frequented by indigenous people in days gone by. The rock formations behind these were also 'vibey' so to speak. Further east around the Weddin Range is another area that wouldnt surprize me if sightings occurred there. Thanks again for your story.

Awesome read Neil... looking forward to more down the track!

In the late 1990s I spent 8 months living in Dorrigo doing a traineeship with Greening Australia. On a few occasions the subject of a local hermit was brought up in discussion with some of the old timers at the local . I had never brought up my interest in yowies or anything unconventional so I had no reason to believe that they were just "spinning the young bloke a yarn" so to speak. I would always press for further details about this "hermit" when the subject came up but never received any concrete details as it was always second-hand information. The sightings of the so-called hermit were always from a distance and in (or on the edges of) bushland. At the time I wondered to myself the very same thing you have brought up. That is - was this possible yowie activity which was being rationalised by locals as the simple, random wonderings of a hermit? It is much easier to discuss (especially in a small town where reputations and credibility can go a long way) hermits as oppossed to yowies! Then again, it could of all been just small town legend??? It seems many towns on the north coast have stories about hermits but very little in the way of documentation. Either way I find it very interesting.

Thanks for the great reminisence. No one has asked the question yet - how big were the foot prints?

Thanks for the info Neil.

So I use to live near a place that has some Yowie activity recorded.

G’day Tez,

Weja is about 10 kms west of Ungarie along the Lake Cargelligo Road. The population density was very low and I remember that one of our neighbours was about fifteen kilometers to the South. At night, the forty Watt light bulb on their verandah looked like a faint star.

There were pockets of natural bush remaining then, and a large area to the north of the farmhouse. Around that time, there was a substantial Koori population around Lake Cargelligo. The stories of hermits raiding farmhouses around the district were told to me at the “bottom pub” at Ungarie over several nights after the incident. The discussions were very serious but, there was never any mention of Yowies or any other “unusual” activity that I can remember. However, as I did a great deal of driving, mainly home and visiting regional areas (125,000 kms with one car), the locals sometimes warned me against traveling at night along the Newell. At that time, I did not pay any particular attention to the warnings or ask for further explanation but, it makes more sense now!

G’day SAB 8,

It does seem that the “hermit” scenario is the default explanation. When the NSW Police did their investigations and stakeouts here, their initial suspect was also a “hermit”. Some of the initial strategies included leaving glass and wine bladder in the bush, in order to obtain fingerprints for identification. Recent posts and reports from residents regarding activity at Valley Heights mention a “hermit” as a possible culprit, even though sightings clearly suggest otherwise (see “The Yowie”). As you know, there are others.

G’day Andrew,

Regarding “how big were the feet?”, at that time there was no second glance at the muddy imprints because we were not looking for anything unusual. They may well have displayed digits and other measurable characteristics but, we were blinded by the “obvious truth” of the circumstances. The same applies to the initial set of tracks made by Fatfoot in the newly excavated earth at our building site - we were not looking for or expecting anything else. After we became aware, we never got to see anything as good again.

G’day Kessa,

What amazes me is the extensive range of habitats that these hominoids seem to be found in, even low altitude coastal environments but, the frequency of activity is apparently low. Similarly reports from arid areas of Australia. Clearly, there seems to be a wide range of adaption and therefore speciation but, I could be wrong.

Thanks.

Neil

I find the tree breaks and the markers they make are intresting it looks like the American bigfoot does the same.

http://sasquatchsounds.com/photo%20page.html

Neil, I actually thought perhaps South Australia was too hot or dry for them, but I read the report from Roxby Downs on here. So I guess they might thrive in arid conditions, then again we humans have adapted to harsher climates, so maybe they have too.

SAB 8 wrote:
In the late 1990s I spent 8 months living in Dorrigo doing a traineeship with Greening Australia.

Hi SAB 8.

In the 80's, I worked on a dairy farm in Dorrigo. It butted up against the Dorrigo National Park, and the only excitement I had (Apart from the occasional low-level flyover of F1-11's) was a most interesting sighting.
As was the case on a dairy farm, we did 2 milkings a day. It was around 3PM in the afternoon, and I was on a motorbike traveling to the back paddock (the one which abutted the Dorrigo National Park) to retrieve some cows which had been placed there (Pregnant and calving ones) earlier that morning after the first milking.
There was a creek that ran in front of the paddock, and as i rode down and up the other side (Across the shallow ford), I braked and started to lower the kick stand to alight from the bike and open the gate when i stopped dead in my tracks.
There behind a group of cows was a large hairy black figure. It was behind the cows and the reason i saw it was that it had been stooping down behind the cows and when it saw me (or heard the bike) it quickly stood up to full height and stared in my direction. I stood transfixed for what seemed an eternity.
It was about 1 min that we just stared at each other with stunned looks on our faces and then it bolted straight for the bush.
I quickly opened the gate and rode to where it was standing. The freshly plowed ground clearly showed it's footprints. I followed them to the bush edge and i could still hear the banging and crashing of it through the bush and this lasted for a good 10 mins. The bush was basically impassable, and the creature sounded like it was hitting every tree. I attempted to enter the bush but only got about as far as one step before my shoulders were hitting trees and i could see the ripped of bark from some of the trees, showinf the creatures passage through them. I examined the footprints but as the soil was very soft (even my foot sank about 12 inches into the soil) I realised that the footprints would be on the bottom of the hole.
I sort of just continued on with the task at hand and to this day, I still remember that encounter. I don't tell many people about it, as they think you are a nut.
From what I recall it was about 7 1/2 foot tall. I am 6' 4" tall and i could stand beside the same cow and lean on it's back, so i estimated how tall the creature was by it's much higher projection above the cows. Our cows where very timid and usually moved away from humans when approached, but the creature seemed to mingle among them without them showing any fear.
Oh well, there it is.

Hermit?? Well if hermits have long black hair all over their bodies, then yes, otherwise NO!

Hey there Starwarp2000,

Excellent post and encounter, shame about the footprints, would you be able to tell me though if they were 5 or 3 toed, I know you said they went into a hole just curious if you found any that didnt.

Also can you go into a bit more detail of what it looked like, facial features, Human looking? ape looking? any other things noticed etc.

Cheers

Mike Williams wrote:Welcome to the party starwarp2000
We dont often get people telling us about such a great sighting on their first post.!
I thought that was a ripper..!!
And thats without taking anything away from kezzas sighting as well..

Mike

Thank you Mike!

Glad to be here and convey my experience

Dion wrote: Excellent post and encounter, shame about the footprints, would you be able to tell me though if they were 5 or 3 toed, I know you said they went into a hole just curious if you found any that didnt.

Also can you go into a bit more detail of what it looked like, facial features, Human looking? ape looking? any other things noticed etc.

Hi Dion,

Unfortunately that night there was a rain-storm and when I did go back there (about 2 days after) the footprint holes had filled with water. This probably weakened the sides and they had collapsed. I had acquired some Plaster of Paris, and was going to make some casts of the footprints.
As for the appearance: As i said it was about 7 1/2 tall, covered from head to toe with dark stringy, long locks of hair. It was hugely muscular, and from the outline of its body it was more ape-like than human-like. I say this because of the lack of a neck, as humans have a distinctive neck, which gives the head an elevation above the shoulders.
It's face was like it had a full beard, and I remember it's facial features: A pronounced cranium and cheekbones. It's eyes were a reddish colour. It's teeth ( which it bared at me) had pronounced Canines and were quite large.

Oh!, by the way i did measure it's gait! (A couple of days thinking about this and I came up with all sorts of forensic methods to determine it's characteristics.)

It's gait (Average distance between footprints) was approx. 6' 6".

One of the other things I came up with was to enter the bush where the creature crashed into the trees and see if I could recover some hair or maybe skin that had attached to the trees when it came in contact with them.
Well, I did recover about 50 strands of hair, and these are being kept by me for one day DNA Testing.
Consequently, i did send some to the CSIRO for DNA testing, but they came back with the astounding conclusion: "We seem to have destroyed your samples".

After that my phone was tapped by ASIO, i was followed everywhere for about 2 months. Until I actually rang ASIO and told them to "go fly a kite".

Now if you want a Conspiracy Theory, then there is one for you

CSIRO doing animal DNA testing.That's a first.I know some one who work's there.
Can I have the number to ASIO or just post it on here.LOL

Hey Starwarp2000

Thanks for all that information I only asked for that info because I was curious.

Like I said shame about the prints at least you have a few hairs.

ASIO huh….well I have to say you’re not the first to have them follow you around because of possible evidence acquired, unfortunately I can’t give any details of that story as its not mine to tell.

Anyway I like a good conspiracy theory.

We had a chap who is no longer a member here that was from the states who was certain that he was being monitored by the FBI, and CIA, and one other which I cannot remember, all because of his involvement in the Bigfoot field. He may have been a little paranoid, but I guess once you have been followed once, twice or three times paranoia can breed in the mind and before you know it you can become a little loopy. It’s called Psychological warfare, there’s another conspiracy theory for you.

Again thanks for all that Info I have a better understanding of what it looked like now, you have described what most people see down to a tee.

Cheers

The yowie Mrx wrote:CSIRO doing animal DNA testing.That's a first.I know some one who work's there.
Can I have the number to ASIO or just post it on here.LOL

The CSIRO has ALWAYS done Animal Testing!: http://csiro.au/places/AAHL.html

As for ASIO's number, I will allow you to contact them for that: http://www.asio.gov.au/Contact-Us.html

Why would the existence of yowies/bigfoot be of interest to ASIO/FBI/CIA?

FM80 wrote:Why would the existence of yowies/bigfoot be of interest to ASIO/FBI/CIA?

I suppose because any UNKNOWN or UNCLASSIFIED species roaming around inside their countries comes under Security Risk Clauses!

That's my idea. If you want their reason you will have to contact them and ask them!

Hey FM80

I can give a small number of reasons

1. Governments will always want to know about such things, they just do.
2. An existence of Yowies or Bigfoot would/could have possible effects on safety for campers, Health and Safety regulations would have to be brought in, making the government liable for any accidents.
3. Forestry industry would be shut down causing an economic collapse.
4. Religious and cultural issues.
5. National Security issues in case there more than just F&B

There is probably more that I could bring up if I really thought long and hard about it.

I have no doubt in my mind that governments across the world have an interest in such things as Yowies or Bigfoot just as they had an interest in UFO's for national security issues.

Just my opinion.

HI starwarp2000

I did work with part of that mod (CSIRO).I was the guy who looked after the lab rats and mices.Yes the do a lot of testing on disease found in animals and humans.But I never seen them do a DND test on a unkown animal or insect.And yes they do get a lot of unknow animals and insect come in.

As for the ASIO thanx for the number.

Hi starwarp2000 you might like this it's from Rex.

To the aborigines particularly the mountain tribes, the mere mention of the name (Yowie) was enough to inspire fear, causing scared looks and frightened ejaculations, so convinced were they of the creatures existence.There were said to be two different types of Yowies, those of the mountain regions were covered from head to foot in long hair, whilst those of the plains and open scrub had shorter hair with facial features clearly visible. The above descriptions tally exactly with those of other beasts reported throughout South-East Asia, China and Russia where those known to inhabit the colder mountainous regions are covered in a thick coating of hair, while those of jungle regions have very little hair due to the more amiable climate conditions.

I worked with a bloke from Dorrigo and he told me story about the ASIO were after him.This bloke smoked dope and was a nutter big time.

That why I put the LOL after the ASIO thing.I'm sorry mate.

Dion wrote:Hey FM80

I can give a small number of reasons

1. Governments will always want to know about such things, they just do.
2. An existence of Yowies or Bigfoot would/could have possible effects on safety for campers, Health and Safety regulations would have to be brought in, making the government liable for any accidents.
3. Forestry industry would be shut down causing an economic collapse.
4. Religious and cultural issues.
5. National Security issues in case there more than just F&B

There is probably more that I could bring up if I really thought long and hard about it.

I have no doubt in my mind that governments across the world have an interest in such things as Yowies or Bigfoot just as they had an interest in UFO's for national security issues.

Just my opinion.

Thanks Dion. I've heard about the involvement of intelligence agencies before and I'm seriously curious about it.

I don't get the health and safety issue. Bears would be more dangerous in the states, snakes are a bigger threat in Australia. I don't see the logic here. So the existence of yowies is proven, guidelines are drawn up such as don't feed them, someone gets assaulted by one (which is very rare anyway, they're hard enough to find let alone interact with) and the government gets sued? How is it different to any other animal in the Australian bush that is potentially dangerous to people?

I'm not trying to be flippant or rude, but there must be something I'm missing, there has to be, because it doesn't make sense to me.

The collapse of the forestry industry. I must be missing something here too. How is it different to the protection or conservation of animals such as koalas?

And the religous and cultural issues. I don't understand this one AT ALL. I'm trying hard to see the logic in this one. Which religion would be affected by the proven existence of yowies? Why would the government care? How would this impact on religion?

I'm not saying that the government is not involved, I'd just like to know why. I understand why they're involved in UFOs, but not yowies.

FM80 wrote:I don't get the health and safety issue.

You have to understand that we are not dealing with an animal such as a bear or snake, but an ape that could be considered a race of Human, there is bigger consequences than just a known animal. National Parks are run by the Government if I’m not mistaken Health and safety issues would have to come into play because people look to the government for leadership. (Sounds Dopey I know). If something went wrong people will always look to blame someone and the Government is the first in the chain.

FM80 wrote:I must be missing something here too. How is it different to the protection or conservation of animals such as koalas?

Seeing as Yowies are rare to find, you have to look at in the perspective of an Ape just like you or I living in the bush, it could potentially come under a "human civilisation act" living in the bush (if there is such a thing), and it would carry a lot more weight than a animal like a koala. Animal or Ape it would be the biggest discovery for mankind, not something that could be pushed under the carpet such as an animal, Thus destroying the Forestry industry.

FM80 wrote:And the religous and cultural issues. I don't understand this one AT ALL.

This I won’t touch as it may spark up some heated debate which I dont have the energy for.. Just believe me it would.

Thanks Dion, that makes more sense. I've mentioned this (government involvement) to family/friends but I've never been able to give a proper reason, at least now I can explain it to them in more detail.

I agree about the discussion of religous issues, we'll leave that one.

G’day Starwarp2000,

Thanks for posting your encounter. Your description, attention to detail and subsequent effort is to be commended.

Few people have had an occasion to clearly view a dooligahl in daytime. I am still waiting for my chance, annoyingly though, the rest of our family have already achieved their opportunity.

I would like to lend you support, even though experience tells me that I should not, because it incites disbelief - all of us know of it but, this is something else! When we had few to turn to, we spoke to the Aboriginal community and also the NSW Police. There was no one else for awhile, until the local community provided all the support and confirmation that we required.

Sometime after we contacted the Police, we were subject to an investigation. The local Police questioned many people over a lengthy period of time. We know this because our neighbours told us (usually straight away) and at a later stage, the Police confirmed this and more openly spoke to people as well. For them, the frustrating thing was having our neighbours confirm our relative sanity and drug free lifestyle, and from many of them, confirmation of our shared encounters or experiences. Then they interviewed Ian. Even though he was known to them, he spoke freely about what was happening throughout the valleys. Probably because of his history, Ian had no difficulty in convincing the Police of our lack of motive.

Similarly, the Blue Mountains Police asked their professional tracker to investigate our land while we were at work and report on any alternative explanations (we were told of this afterwards by the tracker and Police sometime later). Simply, Steve told them that there was no evidence of pigs or other feral animals that could cause the damage seen in our swamp. When told of our experiences and questioned further about our activity, Steve told the Police that he and his wife had also encountered a dooligahl near here, more than a decade earlier. This, together with Ian’s statements and other resolved doubts, seemed to placate them. However, the investigation was ongoing, involving many officers and lasting several months.

The eventual three night stakeout was mostly uneventful, apart from a few brief encounters in the swamp that cemented their fear of the unknown (so we shall say). Anyway - during the long period afterwards, there was not much obvious contact with the Police, apart from a few casual visits. For us, we did notice some unusual activity on our telephone that, for the uninitiated, could be anything but, we questioned it at the time. Yes, this is weird.

Addressing the issue of the CSIRO: I know that some of the members could comment on this. For me, I have met a CSIRO scientist who does DNA work on weird stuff (not Kosta). I was amazed to be at his house on one occasion to see Chinese scientists working on DNA sequences in multiple bedrooms, showing that red headed, tartan wearing Celts had been living in China for millennia. There was other stuff and an interest in alternative biology, some really weird but legitimate and totally rational. Does not mean that this was sanctioned by the CSIRO but, it definitely happened. Not a problem.

Finally, after my interview aired on ABC Catalyst on a Thursday night in 2002, the following Monday around 9:00 AM, a very noisy helicopter approached and finally hovered directly over our house at an illegal altitude of about 200 feet. It or, whoever commanded it, was making a statement. I think that it may have been a Blackhawk (this narrows it down because I have subsequently been in a Seahawk). It stayed there for several minutes. Now, I normally do not tell many people about this because it is weird but, it did happen and it was similarly experienced by another researcher who had also seen it moving along the Great Western Highway as it approached, and then arriving at our house. Now, for most people, this screams of several things, most of them strange. However, it did happen. My only explanation of this was that it was intended for me to talk about, as I am finally doing now, and that it would be interpreted as being extremely paranoid - as it seems. That is why I normally don’t speak of it, and most probably shouldn’t have. It was blatantly intentional. WTF?

Neil

Hey Neil

Great story.

In regards to this Black helicopter you saw I have had a similar experience, although I could relate my Black Helicopter experience back to speaking out about other things, namely UFO’s not Yowies. The Helicopter flew at such a low altitude that it could have hit the house, that’s when I was living in Victoria. I even got to see the guy flying the thing it was so low, the guy looked a little agitated or angry about something. I even had the odd phone call back in the day that's when I was researching UFO's. I have my theories of why it happened and like yourself it’s not something I really talk about.