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I have been pondering this question for sometime that based upon many reports from across the globe witnesses have claimed they have heard human-ish voices, some say gibberish. I have have heard several vocalizations but never words.

A fellow researcher was telling me (and I have no heard this two other times) that an Aboriginal lady had heard them speaking and some words sounded Aboriginal or at least words that belong to her people, the word she said she heard was "Jai' or 'Ji' I dont know what it means given there is hundreds of different types on Languages here in Australia, but, and at a long stretch, if we can pull some words from witnesses and thier reports, could we possibly try to put together some reference words that may or may not be useful?

Just throwing it out there and does anyone have any other words they have heard to add?

Cheers

Ray

Ray Doherty wrote:I have been pondering this question for sometime that based upon many reports from across the globe witnesses have claimed they have heard human-ish voices, some say gibberish. I have have heard several vocalizations but never words.

A fellow researcher was telling me (and I have no heard this two other times) that an Aboriginal lady had heard them speaking and some words sounded Aboriginal or at least words that belong to her people, the word she said she heard was "Jai' or 'Ji' I dont know what it means given there is hundreds of different types on Languages here in Australia, but, and at a long stretch, if we can pull some words from witnesses and thier reports, could we possibly try to put together some reference words that may or may not be useful?

Just throwing it out there and does anyone have any other words they have heard to add?

Cheers

Ray

But how would you know what word was relevant without a rosetta stone?

Hey Ray

"Jai" and "Mook" are the common ones, Mook usally said from once to three times. We can only guess as to what they mean? Some people report hearing something similar to the Japanese language also.

Yeah, I don't know, it's a tricky one Ray - even if what people have reported hearing is just a mimicking of words, it's still going to be hard to identify any useful ones because of the proliferation of indigenous languages and dialects.

Scott Nelson (?) in the States has done a heap of work on 'the samurai chatter' etc, I think he was a cryptographer?

As an aside, I know it's not language, but last week when I was onsite by myself as I was heading back towards the car I stopped to have a look around and a listen - while I was standing there I heard a sneeze.

I know cats and dogs etc all sneeze so who knows what it was, but there were no cars parked on the road within 1km+ from mine and the nearest people I saw were 1-1.5km away (workers doing road repairs).

forestguy wrote:Yeah, I don't know, it's a tricky one Ray - even if what people have reported hearing is just a mimicking of words, it's still going to be hard to identify any useful ones because of the proliferation of indigenous languages and dialects.

Scott Nelson (?) in the States has done a heap of work on 'the samurai chatter' etc, I think he was a cryptographer?

As an aside, I know it's not language, but last week when I was onsite by myself as I was heading back towards the car I stopped to have a look around and a listen - while I was standing there I heard a sneeze.

I know cats and dogs etc all sneeze so who knows what it was, but there were no cars parked on the road within 1km+ from mine and the nearest people I saw were 1-1.5km away (workers doing road repairs).

Learning a few of their words would be useful but at this stage impossible I would think. It would just be gibberish , aggressive or you may end up with an unwanted bedfellow, both could get you in a lot of trouble.

+like many languages, tone, and context may be important.



Woodknocking and free food are probably the only forms of communication we could hope for for the time being.

Yep - same reason I don't do call blasting - who knows what you're saying? "I had relations with your mother, you smell like wee, and I heard that you really like possums..."

No thanks.

Well at this point I think anything is worth a go!

forestguy wrote:Yep - same reason I don't do call blasting - who knows what you're saying? "I had relations with your mother, you smell like wee, and I heard that you really like possums..."

No thanks.

Hey Forest,
I've always thought that knocks could be a warning or something similar, especially to other brethren folk in the area. Maybe that's the reason that their always far away. It's mostly a knock in the distance, or again another knock in the other direction in the distance.
Hence - I feel the same way with calls, I use to do them not anymore though, ( haha personal joke there shhhhhh ! ) but it seems a bit ridiculous now I think back, I have no idea what I'm saying ---- and like Forest said it could mean anything. I'd say 90% that it is a negative move.
Even thought of playing gorilla or other sasquatch vocalisations through the scrub. Thought twice.

Cheers

Ants

Team 205

A little off topic, however, I've always thought woodknocking is a means of making a sort of bush 'roll call'. As if to say 'If you can hear this, knock back', so they can easily see how far away another yowie is. This may be a peaceful way of maintaining territories (even if only seasonal ones) or it may be a 'hey come check this out' sort of deal, but I still tend to believe it's the former - a way of establishing who they know and where they are.

Shazz

Just wanted to raise this from 2012 to see if anyone has come up with any new idea's.

A recent experience has pushed me square into considering that Yowie's may well have a structured language in some area's. Does this indicate regional differences in development or multiple sub-species across the country?

Cheers to Blackstump for mentioning an older thread.

Cheers

Hey Paul

I am sorta thinking along the lines that jungadee may have language/speech same as indigenous persons of their same area. Indigenous persons may have learnt language from jungadee or visa versa. Perhaps some of the bush camp aboriginals and jungadee still communicate with each other today. I will give you an example.

I posted this link a while back in another thread. https://www.facebook.com/IndigenousGhos ... =3&theater

It is a pic of a jungadee taken at laura/marry valley area west of Cooktown. It is said in the facebook comments/replies that pic was taken by an indigenous land care worker. An indigenous woman posted she was upset that the pic had been taken and put up online and the woman demanded the pic be taken down as it was her ancestor on her country. This same indigenous woman made another comment further down the page. I have copy/pasted her comments below she challenges another indigenous woman to tell her the jungadees name and language.

In my view , based on the womans comments , she knows this jungadee and also knows the language jungdee speaks. Note that she says her father is King of her clan. I think most of the comments re the picture are made by indigenous persons. Have a read of all comments/replies made.

I think you have to seperate jungadee and dooligahl as being totally different. Perhaps one has language as we know it or similar and dooligahl language is grunts/groans/roars and other sounds.

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Ellenore GeorgeChase Musgrave PLEASE ADMIN DELETE THIS PHOTO AS IT IS MY ANCESTORS ON MY COUNTRY.

3 · 21 July 2016 at 22:35
Theresa Laurel Tyson-Obah
Theresa Laurel Tyson-Obah its just a photo it'd be bad if someone had stolen a stone or carved there name on the trees up there

21 August 2016 at 04:36 · Edited
Ellenore GeorgeChase Musgrave
Ellenore GeorgeChase Musgrave It's a photo of my old people and it's not nice at all strangers taking photos of my old people u wouldn't understand

21 August 2016 at 13:04
Theresa Laurel Tyson-Obah
Theresa Laurel Tyson-Obah Bol I'm from laura as well I know language and culture so I know what you can and cannot do up laura and it is my country too I've danced and sang language songs up there on country

1 · 28 May at 18:45
Ellenore Musgrave
Ellenore Musgrave Theresa Tianna Tyson-Obah I'm from laura grew up there lived there all my life... if u so certain about this picture tell me who it is where he's from and his language my father is the king of our clan so don't tell me about culture and whatever people dont understand anything these f'n days what ya reckon Roseanne George Rose George Gene Wade Ross. Roberta Bowen Charmaine Bowen

Link in post above is broken. Hopefully link below is works

https://www.facebook.com/IndigenousGhos ... =3&theater

paulmcleod67 wrote:Just wanted to raise this from 2012 to see if anyone has come up with any new idea's.

A recent experience has pushed me square into considering that Yowie's may well have a structured language in some area's. Does this indicate regional differences in development or multiple sub-species across the country?

Cheers to Blackstump for mentioning an older thread.

Cheers

"Sasquatch Chronicles 2017 // SC EP:371 Sasquatch Language? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XieumfM2PYE

Ron Morehead and Scott Nelson ... discussing Sasquatch and possible language.

Author/Adventurist Ron Morehead, producer of the Sierra Sounds, has been known for decades for his world-wide research into the Bigfoot/Sasquatch phenomenon. To date, he comes closer than any other researcher to having a complete body of evidence. The Sierra Sounds are the only Bigfoot recordings that have been scientifically studied, time-tested, and accredited as genuine. Ron has documented his personal interactions with these giant beings and produced his story on a CD and also in a book, “Voices in the Wilderness.” "

Wolf wrote:

paulmcleod67 wrote:Just wanted to raise this from 2012 to see if anyone has come up with any new idea's.

A recent experience has pushed me square into considering that Yowie's may well have a structured language in some area's. Does this indicate regional differences in development or multiple sub-species across the country?

Cheers to Blackstump for mentioning an older thread.

Cheers

"Sasquatch Chronicles 2017 // SC EP:371 Sasquatch Language? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XieumfM2PYE

Ron Morehead and Scott Nelson ... discussing Sasquatch and possible language.

Author/Adventurist Ron Morehead, producer of the Sierra Sounds, has been known for decades for his world-wide research into the Bigfoot/Sasquatch phenomenon. To date, he comes closer than any other researcher to having a complete body of evidence. The Sierra Sounds are the only Bigfoot recordings that have been scientifically studied, time-tested, and accredited as genuine. Ron has documented his personal interactions with these giant beings and produced his story on a CD and also in a book, “Voices in the Wilderness.” "

Thank you kind sir.
That is why this forum is essential, the sharing of ideas and information.
Cheers

IMO they must have some kind of "language" whether it be intelligent grunts and groans similar to other primates or some kind of language like the aboriginal dialects.
I myself have heard some low mumbling, like some one talking just out of earshot, moving away from me through a thick line of trees, plus there is alot of legimate audio out there that suggests they use intelligent noises to communicate.

Maybe Junjadee's can talk and Yowies grunt and growl or vica versa.

Slats wrote:IMO they must have some kind of "language" whether it be intelligent grunts and groans similar to other primates or some kind of language like the aboriginal dialects.
I myself have heard some low mumbling, like some one talking just out of earshot, moving away from me through a thick line of trees, plus there is alot of legimate audio out there that suggests they use intelligent noises to communicate.

Maybe Junjadee's can talk and Yowies grunt and growl or vica versa.

Hi Slats. I have heard the same thing. Low mumbling in what sounded like an Aboriginal dialect. At a later date but at the same place, i heard a one word command type vocal which also sounded like another language. First time it was right next to me but other it was near but no one around.

I have heard Yowie vocals from up close. Right next to me in fact so i know where the vocals came from. It made a lot of snorting and expelling air but also was yelling at or abusing us in some form. Nothing like a human voice. It did sound like a language that i doubt very much humans could reproduce.

One thing that always stood out after the encounter was the variety of vocals it or they made. Everything from high pitched tones to deep gutteral sounds and as i said, lots of air expelling or wheezing type sounds. Hope thats helpful to you!

I've heard quite a few bigfooters in the US say they're very good at mimicry. They mimic voices and can say things like "Hey!" or a pet cats meow, or the pull starter sound for a lawn mower. They're definitely verbal IMHO.

as for Sasuqathc language, I found this video, it is analysing the Serria Sound tape aka Samurai Chatter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWXgYt9Pq8Q

The author said bigfoot speak twice as fast as human, with octave span much wider than human.

Thumper wrote:I've heard quite a few bigfooters in the US say they're very good at mimicry. They mimic voices and can say things like "Hey!" or a pet cats meow, or the pull starter sound for a lawn mower. They're definitely verbal IMHO.

There is a classic story about a bloke getting harassed over time. He had a dog called peanut and one night heard his tormentor in a very deep voice calling his dog... "PEEEEEEEENUUUUUT"