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Very odd footage

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:24 pm
by Rusty2
This might have to go in the controversial section and may ruffle some feathers .

Make up your own minds ..........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jikZBR9z ... IrJe-hFmVg

Re: Very odd footage

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:08 pm
by Mminter23
Rusty2 i just watched your post i reckon it's a yowie.

Re: Very odd footage

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:11 pm
by Dion
Glad to see this footage has made it to the public eye, been waiting for its release for quite some time, to all who approved its release it’s a step in the right direction.

Although it is pixelated I believe its authentic.

Re: Very odd footage

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:53 pm
by Rusty2
I believe it is Mminter23

I agree Dion ! There's a huge elephant in the corner of the forum here and other forums around the planet that wont go away until its addressed .

Btw , this is the gliding action I mentioned in another thread .........

Re: Very odd footage

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:06 pm
by forestguy
I have to say I never thought of it as gliding, just an incredible jump in an incredibly pixelated piece of footage, but who knows.

I did a bit of analysis on this when it first came up - I've attached some of it, mainly the section looking at the (for sake of a better descriptor..) jump.
DD Video - Initial Analysis_EDIT.pdf

Re: Very odd footage

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:14 pm
by FM80
Rusty2 wrote:
There's a huge elephant in the corner of the forum here and other forums around the planet that wont go away until its addressed .
That's really interesting footage. I might be a little slow here, but what's the elephant in the corner that needs to be addressed?

Re: Very odd footage

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:15 pm
by Ray Doherty
WOW - that is all!

Re: Very odd footage

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:00 am
by Sinestro
Some pretty amazing footage. It's movement was really something else. Whatever it is.

Re: Very odd footage

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:42 am
by mlj1mlj1
On these type of videos, you must wonder what happened next? and why don't we know?

Re: Very odd footage

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:28 am
by Gartloney Rat
Interesting video, my impression and because of the quality it can only be an impression is that it just takes a single huge bound. It travels through the air in a semi sitting position, feet first, has misjudged the leap slightly so that it hits the rear of the ute just below the lip and kind of pivots over into the rear. Is there any more footage of the the creature escaping and presumably the occupants bailing out in a hurry?

cheers

Gareth

Re: Very odd footage

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:10 pm
by Rusty2
Hey FG !
The problem with this footage is that if it were jumping it would reach the vehicle in twice the speed wouldn't it , I think we can all guess how quickly one would jump from one spot to another , its one rapid movement , hence why I say gliding which might be my own interpretation of what's happening but I guess what I'm getting at is it isn't jumping , its taking too long to get to the vehicle for a jump . It takes a path well above the ground to reach a moving target . This is the exact action I saw in the scrub myself and the exact words a recent witness described on here not so long ago .

FM80 , as I mentioned in the video I don't like the idea of anything paranormal to do with these creatures but the paranormal elephant/debate is here with us wether we like it or not . Some here believe "they" are paranormal , some of us do not , that's cool , everyone to their own opinions , BUT , this thing is clearly not behaving in any way that could suggest a normal approach to a moving vehicle . If it were you or I we would have to run along side the vehicle and try to scramble into the back of the car . If we had the strength of ten men we could maybe leap from a long distance but this thing is clearly not leaping .

Sinestro I agree , you've nailed it on the head , its movement is the odd thing here .

Mike , the video was cut in half and we don't get to see the running and confusion . I suspect it was cut deliberately to conceal the witnesses . Some really bad stuff happened after this which I cannot go into but it involves aboriginal tradition and beliefs .

Gartloney that's exactly what I can see , a seated position but its still moving too slow to be a jump . It floats or glides towards the vehicle .

I understand this is controversial and knew that when I put the video up . All I can say is I've seen this gliding action for myself and I wasn't delusional .

Cheers !

Re: Very odd footage

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:50 pm
by Dion
I would have to agree with Rusty here and say that it does seem to glide and does not jump. That was my initial thought when I saw this footage many years ago.

If it did jump it would have come up suddenly in motion and then back down in motion, in a semi-circle manner, I ask anyone to think about that for a moment, look at a long jumper in the Olympics for an example they come up and then back down it’s a law of gravity,

This does something entirely different, it moves in a straight line as if gliding in an upward motion.

It an interesting piece of footage.

Re: Very odd footage

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:20 pm
by Hurleyboy
It seems that the blurry object approached the rear tray in slow motion, which is contrast to the rest of the shaky footage. Without seeing more of the lead up, and what happened after, then I couldn't say for sure what it is. But if those guys that saw it, and there looks to be a few of them, all agree, then I'd take their word for it.

Strange footage for sure.

Re: Very odd footage

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:24 pm
by Neil Frost
G’day Rusty et al,

Sorry, I don’t buy this video for many reasons that I wont bother to elaborate on. I have not changed my opinion. For me, it is clearly a doctored video hoax. Even Kooris enjoy a good laugh.

Neil

Re: Very odd footage

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:36 pm
by topender
When I first got hold of this footage from a Tiwi Islands friend of mine, who,s cousin took the video on his phone, I thought OK, in itself I was not convinced, so I sent it off to ForestGuy to try and clean up a bit, as he has shown, I am not claiming anything, it is what it is..a bit of odd footage..it does not excite me as I prefer to lean on the objctive skeptical side.

I give more credibility to some of the first hand reports and stories relayed to me by the Tiwi elders than a piece of blurry footage, for me it is a bit of Ho Hum footage and not anywhere conclusive, my only intent as ForestGuy will tell you was for him to try and clean up the piece to try and get some clarity from it, as for the people involved they definitely seek no spotlight, in fact the subject is off limits there due to cutural reasons

In the meantime keep hunting

Re: Very odd footage

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:37 pm
by forestguy
topender wrote:...I sent it off to ForestGuy to try and clean up a bit, as he has shown, I am not claiming anything, it is what it is..a bit of odd footage...
On that, here's a copy of the relevant section clipped and run through a few different filters.
DD_clipped_filtered-Frames-85-100.avi
Rusty - looking at this particular clip now I can see what you mean about 'gliding', not that I have any idea on explaining it - I can honestly say it never occurred to me at the time, as I said, I thought any oddness in the movement of the subject was a result of the low quality of the recording.

Neil - not sure if you mean digitally altered but when I first got the file it was in .3GP format, which is the video file format used by 3G mobile phones (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3GP_and_3G2). I then had to find a converter that allowed me to change it to an .avi before I could work with it at all, which suggests it was passed on in it's original format.

Re: Very odd footage

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:07 am
by Wayne888
It reminds me of the way a Gibbon moves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=zX4-eMbpiHA

I see it aiming with it's feet, which gives the appearance of it rising.

Re: Very odd footage

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:28 am
by Hairy Porter
Hi Rusty, Just a dumb question in relation to the megavalley clips that played after this clip. You are getting so many good and interesting recordings from the audio surely if you aim a camera at the audio recorder you will eventually film what ever it is that is approaching and tampering? Like I said, dumb question and the obvious thing to do so I suspect I must have missed something... :-)

Re: Very odd footage

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:14 am
by Ray Doherty
Nice Job FG, and yes, the gibbons are a good example. Many of the answers we seek in terms of behavior of the hairy man I beleive that some of the trait can be found in other Primates all we need do is look

Ray

Re: Very odd footage

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:06 pm
by Jacob719
An eagle? as someone suggested to me. Shame it's not a clearer image but I think that an eagle could be a plausible possibility.

Re: Very odd footage

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:05 pm
by Rusty2
Hairy Porter , I don't because they know where the cameras are . A percentage of what I get on audio is likely to be kangaroo's which is unbelievable that a kangaroo would bother but they do .

Leaving the cameras away from the audio recorder creates interest because the audio recorder has no eye's (lens) and becomes approachable . I have caught some very cool stuff doing this so its worth it .

Í see were not all in agreement here and that's fine with me , I'm just glad were talking about it . :D ..........

FG the file wont play for me for some reason .

Re: Very odd footage

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:40 pm
by sealo
Thanks for sharing Rusty, much appreciated mate.

I wish you could elaborate more on the "bad stuff" that happened after and how it was related to this incident? even if it was generalised?

I for one would be very interested in hearing about it, but I realise you may not be able to speak about it at all, if so all good :)

Thanks again and keep up the excellent work with your Youtube vids

Re: Very odd footage

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:25 pm
by forestguy
Hey Rusty - sorry mate, not sure why - it's playing for me when I click on it. Maybe try right clicking it and saving?

Anyway, just to show that you learn something new every day, I just figured out how to make a slow motion version of the clip:
DD_clipped_filtered-Frames-85-100_slowed.avi

Re: Very odd footage

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:08 am
by GlennO87
I dont think its a Yowie. If it was, we would see the big bastard run clear out. This glides and doesnt seem to grab onto the ute. All i really see is this black top half of a human like figure glide towards the vehicle then vanish.....And i think thats all anyone can really make of it.....Defs paranormal..

Re: Very odd footage

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:53 am
by thehairyone
Just wondering if anyone else has thought maybe an eagle getting a fish from the tray of the ute , they grow to a decent size up there and if it was starting on or near the ground its flight path could look similar
Cheers

Re: Very odd footage

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:03 pm
by FM80
I'm having a hard time seeing the paranormal in this.

If the video is genuine, there's just as much evidence in the video (if not more) for flesh/blood animal.

Firstly, if it's a hoax then it's possible that the gliding/paranormal aspect people see in this video is a product of dodgy editing.

It's such a bad quality video that small scale body movements are probably hard to discern. It's entirely possible that the leap to the the ute in the video could be made by a primate with great leaping abilities like other known primates.

If it is paranormal, why does it leap from the ground, just like a flesh and blood terrestrial animal would? Why doesn't it glide in from the top? Or glide in horizontally? Just how bound by gravity are these paranormal things? It just seems like it adds unnecessary levels of complexity to the situation by attributing the supernatural here.

Re: Very odd footage

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:26 pm
by Jacob719
thehairyone wrote:Just wondering if anyone else has thought maybe an eagle getting a fish from the tray of the ute , they grow to a decent size up there and if it was starting on or near the ground its flight path could look similar
Cheers


Yep already suggested eagle thehairyone :)

Re: Very odd footage

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:19 pm
by NotSoBigFoot
I don't often get involved in this kind of debate - HOWEVER.... I do not see anything that would suggest abnormal movement outside of what we know about them, and what we can compare them to... Based on the size, I believe whatever it is in the video to be a Junjudee (correct my spelling if necessary, u know what I mean). I also agree with the comment of movement resembling a gibbon. Just because the entity enters the frame from above the ground does not mean that it is gliding. It just began its ascent out of shot. Remember that these are highly physically capable animals and their judgement would be beyond reproach. All that wasted energy getting up into the air to over estimate the target and then having to come back down as a human would move does not apply. Ask anyone who has had a first hand witness of any of the yowie family (be it Junjudee, Yowie, Quinkin, etc...) their movements indicate that physically they are more efficient than us, so therefore fluid movement and better control of speed of movement is achieved....

End of story for me is basically that it was a Junjudee which appeared to "float, levitate, glide" call it what you will, based purely on a combination of a poor quality, pixelated video and physical prowess. I see it jump whilst running at full speed, slowing down at the last movement to ensure accuracy in jumping onto a moving target with its arms extended forward, hitting its target precisely and in one fluid movement pulling its legs through as an Olympic gymnast would on a horse, grabbing what it needed, and well the rest of the video speaks for itself. Scary occurance, but nothing that can't be explained without resorting to going down the "paranormal"path.

Cheers,

Stu

Re: Very odd footage

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:55 pm
by Chris V
I've watched it a few times and I reckon its a bat!

It makes sense.
Its black. Its was disturbed by the cars approaching and flew off ( possibly even positioned in a tree near the track )
The wings are clearly apparent in the footage and being pretty much blind in daylight its flown straight into the back of the truck. As a result scaring the cr@p out of the blokes in the back and causing mass hysteria!!!
Seeing a black bat which can be quite large in daylight with its wings open landing on you is probably as frightening as a yowie!!!!

Its definetely flying and has a wing motion - to dark for an eagle and too smooth to be anything with legs - it actually flies and appears to glide as a result.

I'm in no means an expert in pixelated images of utes in the bush but it just makes sense!!

I want to believe its something more exciting but alas I can't bring myself to accept anything but.....

Re: Very odd footage

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:32 pm
by thehairyone
An eagle? as someone suggested to me. Shame it's not a clearer image but I think that an eagle could be a plausible possibility.


G,day Jacob sorry didnt see your post but at least great minds think alike
Cheers