Yowie encounter near West Wyalong dark forrest area

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Dean Harrison wrote:You worded it perfectly Chris, thanks.

On a different subject, I was thinking this afternoon regarding someone either on our Forum, or perhaps somewhere else in the World talking about shining them on by whistling tunes. This was a process I ritually performed in the Blue Mountains and once at Daisy Hill. It worked. I found it very effective. You could imagine dead in the night in the forest and you begin to hear a strange tune. Of course you would head there and observe, if it were your backyard.

Worked for me in the past. But nothing I would do alone at night in a known area. Back in the late 90's, that was how Fatfoot established it was me, and the games began.

I would suggest this to anyone who has a regular they visit. It's familiarity and letting them know you are there.



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Its an interesting fact that in Russia/ Siberia, the Almasty is said to be attracted or angered by whistling. I , whilst working as a removalist had an employer with a Russian background and he loathed anyone whistling but would never say why. Now I know why, so there might be something in being in the right location and rather than being as stealthy as humans can be ( my god we are a noisy lot in the bush ) perhaps rousing whistling might bring in some response?

I've also noticed a lot of fairly recent reports from hunters using full gilly suits and in ambush mode having walk by encounters, which at least indicate a fallibility on the Yowies part that is refreshing. They all to often seem super"human" ( excuse the pun ) when the reality would be closer to them having awesome bushcraft skills as well as a kind of day watch system in place. I've noted in Rustys videos that activity always fires up after he has left the area and then they avoid the camera set ups? Tells me he was watched setting up each time.

One of Deans encounters backs this I think? Sitting quietly, observing and then actually startling one into a reflex attack. I'm ex army and when ambushed you wheel or turn towards the ambush, pushing into the line of attack. Deans encounter reminded me of countering an ambush...the way it wheeled straight into him. Astounding account.

In my case it was humbling to learn that my attempts to draw them away from the car ended up in them drawing ME away, and then flanking the car and almost snatching my fiancée whilst I was a fair distance off into the treeline.

I know that all I ever believed about my own movement capabilities, reflexes and fear thresh hold, went out the window after West Wyalong. I've never been outwardly arrogant but I certainly had inner faith in my physical abilities. Years later and I'm still self assessing what I did and what I could have done differently that night. The uncomfortable answer that keeps coming back at me is that "it wouldn't have mattered what you did ol son".


Whilst on Dean.....mate thanks for the input. I have great respect for your forthrightness and honesty in the face of Australia's terrible and one eyed media. Id love to strand some of those guys "out deep and dark " in the Barrington tops for a few full days alone and see what they would report on the event?


Again thanks to everyone that has added to this discussion and let me assure you that every opinion is deeply considered.

I really see a mission put before "we the experienced" in getting a simple system of warning signs put into appropriate places that yowies use as habitat. People are being hurt, scared and yes killed out of ignorance. It really is their land after all.

Oh and despite how aggressive toward the Yowie my posts might read, that is born of frustration at the system and not the Yowie.

The entire lack of acknowledgement the "Australian bush ape" has gotten from our government and sciences is disgraceful based on the STAGGERING number of accounts and DNA evidence that confirms a human like, world wide distribution of current parallel hominid species evolution.

I read and understood the Ketchem paper and was pissed off at its crappy reception. No other science demands a physical body as the only acceptable proof of truthfulness. What of theoretical physics? What of astronomy? Imagine if they were held to the "No body no reality" rule?

The subject is still considered a joke by the general city dwelling public but tell that to people that have lost loved ones simply because the establishment excludes hominids from our evolutionary and geological past as it applies to Australia.

I've always been open and honest to anyone that would listen and the funny thing is, when the argument is convincing almost everyone I have spoken to will admit to a strange experience by the side of this road or that track.

Sorry about the rant, I just feel very strongly about this topic.
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Tuckeroo wrote:
paulmcleod67 wrote:I've been tracking many stories like this and it is more than reasonable to say that in 40 degree weather a body would bloat and split like any other mammal left in the open for six days but what of her clothing, personal effects, blood group? To rely on dental is also standard, but its mentioned as an essential, primary and possible only means? There is no public interview with her two companions at all. Along with other details I find hair raising and creepy. We made a chose not to drive through the Cobar area based on a bunch of truckie and hitcher stories so we went via West Wyalong....talk about crappy luck. Her story put plain what could have happened to us. I'm working on William Tyrells story at the moment as compared to similar situation accounts and with no small measure owing to Americas Denis Martin disappearance (and owing to David Pallides seminal work described in his Missing 411 books).

His Cluster theories seem to pan out here in Australia as well (see my own research results on the maps above).

Hi PMc and Yb, I’ve been reading your posts and one thing that comes through is how
traumatising it can be to have an encounter with a Yowie or any cryptide.
It’s one thing to see one, but to be physically threatened takes it to a different level.

I can read in your posts a sense of relief that your talking to someone who has experienced the same gut wrenching fear.
I tried to imagine how Mick Fanning felt when that shark had a go at him in South Africa. Now make that animal
mysterious as it isn't supposed to exists and I get an idea of how much of a life-changing experience it is.
I always hope to see a Yowie when I’m in the bush but now I’m not so sure.

As for missing persons, I had a look at the AFP web site a while ago and was surprised at the amount of missing people,
( my post about this, ‘missing 411 down under’ )

PMc, you said in a previous post that you wanted to do a David Paulides style investigation but he ‘beat me to the punch’
I know this is only a figure of speech but the meaning I get is that he has published something on Australian missing persons.

I’ve found out today that he is giving a presentation in Australia at West Ryde NSW on the 23rd of this month.
He says he is interested in some missing person cases in the Blue mountains.

Seems like the time is right for this kind of book, written by an Aussie, so I think with your publishing experience, you’re the man.
Might take a few years or so to do it properly.

I’d be careful with the William Tyrell case, still a bit too recent and raw. I have friends in the area and I asked them
what they thought of the case and the vibe I got was that locals were still too upset to talk about it.
I suppose the objectivity of an investigator seems cold and detached to some people, so at this stage I would advise anyone
not to go traipsing around Kendall asking shop-keepers what they thought about the case.

I saw the maps you created, they look like NSW and Southern Queensland and I was wondering if you have investigated
the area between Rocky and Mackay, where hitch-hikers and back-packers were going missing in the 70’s and 80’s.


T.

Hi mate.

In little William Tyrell's case I looked at the mothers original statement that says nobody was in the street (no cars etc.).

That has since changed to (now) three vehicles.

Also the point she makes of "Even the birds stopped making noise".

The feeling that" someone had just reached down and took him" ....most gut feelings are right.

Cadaver dogs that couldn't make out a scent trail at any stage...they couldnt even track him to the road way??? (huge huge hint)

A 1996 yowie sighting report from Kendall in the area that is very near the grandmothers house. The yowie was clearly comfortable sitting and watching the group in the car have a panic attack and drive off at speed. It didn't persue and it didn't retreat. Why? It was in a familiar area.

Yowie hunters own Kempsey report by a pre-teen lad who witnessed one on a few occasions. Also an audio only report by a different young man in the area who seen one with his mates.

The aboriginal oral tradition that talks about the naming of the three brothers (parklands in the Kendall/ Port Macquarie area). In a nutshell there is mention of a cannibalistic monster witch. So there seems to be a constant presence of yowies at least passing through Kendall forestry areas.

I used google earth street view with photography as recent as 2015 and it really underscores how freakish his abduction was. The house sits on high ground and has excellent all round viewing of the property. The mother (adoptive as it turns out) is adamant she could hear him loud and clear playing the "RARGH" game all young boys play, and then suddenly nothing. The thing is that the roadway is roughly 50 meters or more down an inclined slope...she would have mentioned his voice trailing off somewhat I would think? On the other hand the bushland/ neighbours boundary line is very close to his last known location and very rough scrub. The police may have made a fatal mistake by discounting that area as a viable place to search (initially) assuming the young boy wouldn't bother climbing into such nasty brush and would have meandered down the clear slope instead.

I have screen grabs of a preferred route William may have taken, the police staked out, which is backed by zero facts.

There is a large gum tree very near the road which exhibits bark stripping far too long down the trunk to be cockatoo's work, as well as predominant ground markings around its base that looks to me like obvious yowie browsing activity (Ill post all these pix soon for your opinions.)

Also almost every house on the street is now for sale....neither here nor there I know but.....?

There are a lot more reasons but Ill just deal with the above for now.

What has put this investigation on hold for now are the following (not widely known titbits).

William was recently revealed to have been fostered into this family which opens up a whole new can of worms when one looks at why they made the very sudden decision to pull him out of day care and visit the remote household in Kendall.

An early report of a large emotionally unstable woman seen in the area.

The later recounted vehicles parked on the very isolated street (now three in all).

And a lot of social media comment coming from the adoptive mothers now closed facebook pages.

It could reasonably (and I hope to all hopes its true) assumed that they had fled to Kendall due to problems from the natural mother or family of William. That they may have been followed by his natural family and that perhaps they have abducted their son back.

All of which is a far better outcome then the other two possibilities....both horrible to imagine, being paedophiles or yowie abduction.

So whilst I continue to search for new information, I will hold to the hope that his natural parents took him back illegally.

There are other cases that fit the "abducted by yowies" notion and are truly stale to investigators that I'm working on.

Up until recently I going to put out a video on Williams case with the following introduction.... (Have since chosen not to continue with)



DEDICATED TO WILLIAM TYRELL AND HIS FAMILY


A missing child is the single greatest fear all parents face.
The following video is not meant to upset or offend those involved.
As a father of three, I offer the deepest sympathy and most sincere condolences to the
parents and family of young William Tyrell.

I could never fully understand the terrible pain that this tragedy has brought to the
family and community as a whole.

I do not wish in any way, to detract attention away from finding and bringing to justice
the all too human monsters involved with Williams abduction.

As a researcher and author I offer this video merely as a possible, and as of yet un-explored line of inquiry.

Although the subject matter contained here in, is unorthodox and controversial, based upon my own
thoughts and experiences in this area and that , there exists on public record ( prior to Williams abduction)
eye witness testimony from Kendall and surrounding provenances of the existence of Yowies in those places.

It is this rationale that brought me to produce this meagre video so that perhaps some small measure
of investigation in this area might be worthy of police attention.

For indeed it would not be the first time that a youth of few years has vanished in these most peculiar
and horrific circumstances, right under the supervision of a parent or guardian.

It is my deepest wish that no child and no parent should ever again experience
such a cruel and twisted event.

Paul John McLeod

4/4/2016

Unpublished.
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paulmcleod67 wrote:
Yowie bait wrote:Wyalong close up looks a bit like this mean fella.

I thought so too but wanted to wait until someone (like your good self) made the same comparison.

I remember seeing liver spots or sun cancers on its forehead and it certainly had a high scalp line.
My impression remains that the one I caught close up on camera (still an awful picture despite years of working on it)
was quite "old" if that term even applies?

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Tried to find the origin of that pic but no luck so far. Would be freaky if it was an illustration of a sighting in west wyalong!

I noticed the spots on your pic too. Theres a few sightings where blotchy skin is mentioned . Seems theres a few different skin colours reported as well.

The hairy i saw had a dark wrinkly face and looked like he had a terrible skin condition or badly scarred skin.

From what i can figure out ,they dont have as much as a uniformed look as the apes or gorilla etc but are more individuals in their looks.

Its hard to tell if fella in your pic is young or old. Its a shame you didnt ask him for i.d but we can forgive you for that under the circumstances!

Best way to tell would be size i guess and then you would need to know what type they are and how big they get etc and that type of info isnt exactly readily available!
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Actually i doubt size/height would mean much either in terms of confirming the age of a yowie.
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As I mentioned above, I have suspended my own further investigation of William Tyrells abduction pursuant to the notion a Yowie may have been involved, due to current murmurs concerning his parents being revealed as adoptive.
This little late release fact gives a massive shift of focus to the entire case, beyond filthy paedophiles being in the right place at the right time by happenstance (the current police fore runner theory) and at the other extreme end my theory of a yowie snatching him.

This is based upon known and recorded Yowie interactions in the wider area and that local kids might be habituating yowies inadvertently (Kempsy audio and the Wauchope report with the blond lad) . Having shown just a few reported examples of fairly regular contact over at least a few years, would it be much of a stretch to consider perhaps William spotted a shape in the brush near the homes old driveway, assumed it was Daddy back from his errand and playing his" Daddy Tiger RAAAARGH game" . My youngest son Tyler used to resemble young William in many attributes, so Ill bet that he ran to that spot (see graphics to follow) and straight into a hairy fella that might be in the habit of observing households and their kids at close range and had for years.
Then one day a little red and blue painted human child runs up screaming RAAAARGH.....results.....? Exit stage left....with said human in tow? Why the flippant self sarcasm?

Because for all that loose speculation....this new unpublished (I think?) theory seems far more probable and safely removes William from the clutches of Yowies and paedophiles... erm... not to compare the two of course....

William was taken out of day care early the day before due to perceived threats or demands by his natural parent/parents.
His adoptive parents quite normal re-action was to remove William from the situation and to a safe relaxed and hard to find location Being? Grandmothers house in the isolated hamlet of Kendall. What if they were indeed followed not by paedophiles but by the boys natural parents or parent . And the rest is as reported...abducted yes, but by his own parents?

I'm hopeful enough of this theory being right as to halt what I was really starting to put down on paper.

What remains true to me in either case is the route by which he was taken. Not discussed at great detail by
police so I figured it out based on the released news and media.
The research went far enough as to provide a realistic abduction area that meets a few unconsidered points raised by the adoptive mother on her initial call to police, that she could hear him clearly playing his "RAAARGH DADDY TIGER" game and then suddenly nothing. No further noise at all,,,,not even birdsong or ambient bush sounds?

Here are a series of graphics I used to figure out what may have happened and where...
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A few more images I used to nut out what might have happened. These were never meant to be published.
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I couldn't help but just then notice the treeline as seen from above and directly across from driveway 2.

A linear path that runs away and too the 2nd driveway? MIght take a closer look at that when I get a chance,
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Last images on this matter I promise lol
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Is that supposed to be a cloaked figure in that
across from driveway pic? Maybe just me seeing things. I think you have a good case there Paul. Its not such a long stretch to suggest a yowie is involved.

Trouble is convincing people that abduction by the yowie is a possible scenario. Ive spoked to relatives from the country in supposed yowie areas. Just the suggestion of yowies existence is enough to induce ridicule let alone suggesting that kids or an adult could be taken by one.

Some of these people have lived in the same place for generations and as far as they're concerned,they already know everything that is out there. Everyone is different but that is the common response.

Great work with your research. You must have put a lot of time into it. Looking fwd to that book!
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I also saw what looked like a cloaked figure in that photo , but when you blow it up theres nothing there
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thehairyone wrote:I also saw what looked like a cloaked figure in that photo , but when you blow it up theres nothing there
Cheers
Im glad someone else noticed it!
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Yowie bait wrote:Is that supposed to be a cloaked figure in that
across from driveway pic? Maybe just me seeing things. I think you have a good case there Paul. Its not such a long stretch to suggest a yowie is involved.

Trouble is convincing people that abduction by the yowie is a possible scenario. Ive spoked to relatives from the country in supposed yowie areas. Just the suggestion of yowies existence is enough to induce ridicule let alone suggesting that kids or an adult could be taken by one.

Some of these people have lived in the same place for generations and as far as they're concerned,they already know everything that is out there. Everyone is different but that is the common response.

Great work with your research. You must have put a lot of time into it. Looking fwd to that book!

Thanks mate took a while to compile it.

As I said above my current frame of mind is that his natural parents followed them up from Sydney or got the information of where he was via social media, unknowingly from the adoptive parents.

The police are aware of that possibility so I'm leaving the Tyrell case at that until it doesn't pan out and they state that publicly.

But as I put quite a bit into Williams case, I didn't want to just toss the work. Hence posting it here for posterity.

I hope his natural parents do have him because the alternatives are just too cruel and horrendous to ponder long.

Oh and why did I do all this research?

Simple....I'm a dad of 3 boys (two are now men) and child abductions piss me off and bring me to tears because I put my emotional state
in the shoes of abductee's parents.

I would be FREAKING OUT if my youngest son vanished like that.

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Yeah i worry about my nephews living out near the bush and in the city. Gotta keep an eye on them as they take off pretty quick too.

Some scumbag tried to abduct a little girl down the road near a crowded shopping centre in broard daylight . Thankfully she had the sense to break free and run into a shop and the guy took off. They're opportunists and not playing with a full deck. Fortunately kids and parents are aware of these dangers more so these days.

A well worded and to the point pamphlet/flyer warning of the possible dangers of big cats/yowies sent to people in the relevent areas or even all of the country would be a great public service and be a huge talking point. It may sound mad but if no web links or advertising on pamphlet,people may believe it. Be a mighty task though!
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The latest police information on William Tyrell case

https://au.news.yahoo.com/video/watch/3 ... nce/#page1

One Million dollar reward offered

https://au.news.yahoo.com/video/watch/3 ... ase/#page1
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Google street view of Benaroon drive outside of the Tyrell house taken in 2010, show what might be a yowie hanging around the property almost exactly where young William vanished years later. All enhancements are done by myself.
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Who all here would be interested in doing repeat visits to the Kendall Forrest to not only look for Yowie sign but to look for any trace of this young lad William .
We would have to coordinate in a methodical grid like search and not leave any cave unchecked or any stone unturned !!
I think more than enough time has passed that a new way of thinking is what's needed in this case !
I for one would be readily prepared to give up long weekends or RDO time if a valuable result is achievable .
I plan to soon head there anyway and do some investigative bush walking if anyone else is interested , say so here or PM me either way I don't like to sit on my hands especially when the welfare of a young kid is envolved !!
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Paul.
Those images you have posted are very disturbing.
I found myself looking at them wondering if there could be some weight to your theory.
The suspicious looking grey fella in those street views does look suspicious but it all seems a little convenient that a hairy one posed in those pics...just at that time. Not saying that I don't believe the shots - just have to be constructive and look at both sides of the argument.
The thing that concerns me and gives potential to your ideas is all that bushland around.

Your reporting style is very interesting.
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AL Pitman wrote:Who all here would be interested in doing repeat visits to the Kendall Forrest to not only look for Yowie sign but to look for any trace of this young lad William .
We would have to coordinate in a methodical grid like search and not leave any cave unchecked or any stone unturned !!
I think more than enough time has passed that a new way of thinking is what's needed in this case !
I for one would be readily prepared to give up long weekends or RDO time if a valuable result is achievable .
I plan to soon head there anyway and do some investigative bush walking if anyone else is interested , say so here or PM me either way I don't like to sit on my hands especially when the welfare of a young kid is envolved !!
Al - a very admiral idea.
Unfortunately a little to intense for me.
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paulmcleod67 wrote:
Again for those that are interested Ive done this kind of extremely heavy research publication before
My last one was called "The assassination of Harold Holt" Still in print and kindle but I'm not linking it as that's not why I'm posting here.

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This is a total aside, Paul. Your book on Harold Holt sounds fascinating! According to Trove (http://trove.nla.gov.au/version/212890066), only one library has it (Logan City). Did you consider contacting the National Library, state libraries and other large libraries to see if they'd like copies of your book? Sounds like it has a worthy place on library shelves.
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paulmcleod67 wrote:
My last one was called "The assassination of Harold Holt" Still in print and kindle but I'm not linking it as that's not why I'm posting here.
G’day Paul. Hmmm… so you reckon poor old Harold was assassinated…. Haven’t read your book, but that’s what the title implies. His body was never found, so no one can know for sure.

Be interested to read it and see how it compares with my recollection of events back in December, 1967. At the time Holt went missing, I was Chief News Film Editor at a Melbourne TV Station and for many days handled all the 16mm news footage that continuously came in from our news camera crews down at Cheviot Beach at Portsea.

I saw how rough the conditions were and at least to my mind, there was no doubt the treacherous sea was responsible for Holt's disappearance. He was probably caught in a strong rip or got tangled up in the kelp. Either way he drowned and was then swept out to sea. There were eye witnesses testifying to this. I have also been caught in rips while swimming in the Southern Ocean. Not much fun, I can tell you… but at least I survived!

If you have any proof for an assassination over misadventure, I’d certainly like to hear it.
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Searcher wrote:paulmcleod67 wrote:
My last one was called "The assassination of Harold Holt" Still in print and kindle but I'm not linking it as that's not why I'm posting here.
G’day Paul. Hmmm… so you reckon poor old Harold was assassinated…. Haven’t read your book, but that’s what the title implies. His body was never found, so no one can know for sure.

Be interested to read it and see how it compares with my recollection of events back in December, 1967. At the time Holt went missing, I was Chief News Film Editor at a Melbourne TV Station and for many days handled all the 16mm news footage that continuously came in from our news camera crews down at Cheviot Beach at Portsea.

I saw how rough the conditions were and at least to my mind, there was no doubt the treacherous sea was responsible for Holt's disappearance. He was probably caught in a strong rip or got tangled up in the kelp. Either way he drowned and was then swept out to sea. There were eye witnesses testifying to this. I have also been caught in rips while swimming in the Southern Ocean. Not much fun, I can tell you… but at least I survived!

If you have any proof for an assassination over misadventure, I’d certainly like to hear it.
I tend to agree that he disappeared due to the sea conditions that day. Apparently he had been suffering an illness and had struggled only recently with breathing when he had been in the sea weeks or days earlier.
Very sad day - not that I was there of course!
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What the flaming f&$%! I'll be damned if that doesn't look like a yowie on Google street view!
Paul are those pics still available there right now? I'd like to check out the source myself. Can you share the direct Google street view link here?
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AL Pitman wrote:Who all here would be interested in doing repeat visits to the Kendall Forrest to not only look for Yowie sign but to look for any trace of this young lad William .
We would have to coordinate in a methodical grid like search and not leave any cave unchecked or any stone unturned !!
I think more than enough time has passed that a new way of thinking is what's needed in this case !
I for one would be readily prepared to give up long weekends or RDO time if a valuable result is achievable .
I plan to soon head there anyway and do some investigative bush walking if anyone else is interested , say so here or PM me either way I don't like to sit on my hands especially when the welfare of a young kid is envolved !!
Let's say youre successful, how are you going to explain yourself to the cops? You could come under suspicion yourself.
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ChrisV wrote:
AL Pitman wrote:Who all here would be interested in doing repeat visits to the Kendall Forrest to not only look for Yowie sign but to look for any trace of this young lad William .
We would have to coordinate in a methodical grid like search and not leave any cave unchecked or any stone unturned !!
I think more than enough time has passed that a new way of thinking is what's needed in this case !
I for one would be readily prepared to give up long weekends or RDO time if a valuable result is achievable .
I plan to soon head there anyway and do some investigative bush walking if anyone else is interested , say so here or PM me either way I don't like to sit on my hands especially when the welfare of a young kid is envolved !!
Al - a very admiral idea.
Unfortunately a little to intense for me.
Hi, I would be very careful going there. I know a lot of people have probably trampled over that place already, but someone only has to c u around, your not normally there, you dont live there. You will be watched. Also with this new reward out if william did get abducted or killed there, a lot of the time the killer will go back to the area after a long time to make sure his tracks/ body has gone or whatever. With your dna there god help if the cops just need to nab someone to lock up over this.

On the other hand i know anyone can go there, and if you think it maybe the hairy fella involved, you will have better luck with clues as to what has happened, as you prob know a lot of yowie behaviour.
Just my 2 cents worth,scary and def intense. Good luck and be careful. Dee
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Re: Yowie encounter near West Wyalong dark forrest area

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Here are the preliminary results of two studies Ive been working on.
The first was listing all unsolved missing persons cases and unsolved deaths from rural,semi rual or isolated areas along the entire eastern coast of Australia .
The second study involved listing all known yowie encounters (eastern coast) from the time of european settlement onwards.
The third stage was to overlay the results looking for clusters combining both.
At this stage only NSW and QLD overlayed data is near completion,
I thought you might like a look at whats comming out of the work.
I note that David Paulides made a trip here, indicating the statistical case data must warrant further investigation. As I suspected, here are a lot of very strange cases within the grouping , very similar to many of the circumstances described in Paullides 411 works.

Cheers
Paul
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Re: Yowie encounter near West Wyalong dark forrest area

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Thumper wrote:What the flaming f&$%! I'll be damned if that doesn't look like a yowie on Google street view!
Paul are those pics still available there right now? I'd like to check out the source myself. Can you share the direct Google street view link here?


Sure Here you go,,,


https://www.google.com.au/maps/place/Be ... 52.6938359
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Re: Yowie encounter near West Wyalong dark forrest area

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Yowie poems?
Thomas Henry Kendall (18 April 1839 – 1 August 1882) was a nineteenth-century Australian author and bush poet, who was particularly known for his poems and tales set in a natural environment setting.
Kendall was born in a settler's hut by Yackungarrah Creek in Yatte Yattah near Ulladulla, New South Wales. He was registered as Thomas Henry Kendall, but never appears to have used his first name. His three volumes of verse were all published under the name of "Henry Kendall".

The following poems of Kendall seem to me to be discussing aspects of the Yowie
The town William Tyrell went missing from is named after the bush poet,

The Wail in the Native Oak
Henry Kendall
Where the lone creek, chafing nightly in the cold and sad moonshine,
Beats beneath the twisted fern-roots and the drenched and dripping vine;
Where the gum trees, ringed and ragged, from the mazy margins rise,
Staring out against the heavens with their languid gaping eyes;
There I listened - there I heard it! Oh, that melancholy sound,
Wandering like a ghostly whisper, through the dreaming darkness round!
Wandering, like a fearful warning, where the withered twilight broke
Through a mass of mournful tresses, drooping down the Native Oak.

And I caught a glimpse of sunset fading from a far-off wild,
As I sat me down to fancy, like a thoughtful, wistful child -
Sat me down to fancy what might mean those hollow, hopeless tones,
Sooming round the swooning silence, dying out in smothered moans!
What might mean that muffled sobbing? Did a lonely phantom wail,
Pent amongst those tangled branches barring out the moonlight pale?
Wept it for that gleam of glory wasting from the forest aisles;
For that fainting gleam of glory sad with flickering, sickly smiles?

In these woodlands I was restless! I had seen a light depart,
And an ache for something vanished filled and chilled my longing heart,
And I linked my thoughts together - 'All seemed still and dull to-day,
But a painful symbol groweth from the shine that pales away!
This may not be idle dreaming; if the spirit roams,' I said,
'This is surely one, a wanderer from the ages which have fled!
Who can look beyond the darkness; who can see so he may tell
Where the sunsets all have gone to; where the souls that leave us dwell?

'This might be a loving exile, full with faded thoughts returned,
Seeking for familiar faces, friends for whom he long had yearned.
Here his fathers must have sojourned - here his people may have died,
Or, perchance, to distant forests all were scattered far and wide.
So he moans and so he lingers! weeping o'er the wasted wild;
Weeping o'er the desolation, like a lost, benighted child!
So he moans, and so he lingers! Hence these fitful, fretful sighs,
Deep within the oak tree solemn! Hence these weary, weary cries!

'Or who knows but that some secret lies beneath yon dismal mound?
Ha! a dreary, dreadful secret must be buried underground!
Not a ragged blade of verdure - not one root of moss is there;
Who hath torn the grasses from it - wherefore is that barrow bare?
Darkness shuts the forest round me. Here I stand and, O my God!
This may be some injured spirit raving round and round the sod.
Hush! the tempest, how it travels! Blood hath here been surely shed -
Hush! the thunder, how it mutters! Oh, the unrequited Dead!'

Came a footfall past the water - came a wild man through the gloom,
Down he stooped and faced the current, silent as the silent tomb;
Down he stooped and lapped the ripples: not a single word he spoke,
But I whispered, 'He can tell me of the Secret in the Oak?
Very thoughtful seems that forehead; many legends he may know;
Many tales and old traditions linked to what is here below!
I must ask him - rest I cannot - though my life upon it hung -
Though these wails are waxing louder, I must give my thoughts a tongue.

'Shake that silence from you, wild man! I have looked into your face,
Hoping I should learn the story there about this fearful place.
Slake your thirst, but stay and tell me: did your heart with terror beat,
When you stepped across the bare and blasted hillock at your feet?
Hearken to these croons so wretched deep within the dusk boughs pent!
Hold you not some strange tradition coupled with this strange lament?
When your tribe about their camp-fires hear that hollow, broken cry,
~Do they hint of deeds mysterious, hidden in the days gone by?~'

But he rose like one bewildered, shook his head and glided past;
Huddling whispers hurried after, hissing in the howling blast!
Now a sheet of lurid splendour swept athwart the mountain spire,
And a midnight squall came trumping down on zigzag paths of fire!
Through the tumult dashed a torrent flanking out in foaming streams,
Whilst the woodlands groaned and muttered like a monster vexed with dreams.
Then I swooned away in horror. Oh! that shriek which rent the air,
Like the voice of some fell demon harrowed by a mad despair.
Henry Kendall
The Warrigal
The warrigal's lair is pent in bare,
Black rocks at the gorge's mouth;
It is set in ways where Summer strays
With the sprites of flame and drouth;
But when the heights are touched with lights
Of hoar-frost, sleet, and shine,
His bed is made of the dead grass-blade
And the leaves of the windy pine.

Through forest boles the storm-wind rolls,
Vext of the sea-driv'n rain;
And, up in the clift, through many a rift,
The voices of torrents complain.
The sad marsh-fowl and the lonely owl
Are heard in the fog-wreaths grey,
When the warrigal wakes, and listens, and takes
To the woods that shelter the prey.

In the gully-deeps the blind creek sleeps,
And the silver, showery moon
Glides over the hills, and floats, and fills,
And dreams in the dark lagoon;
While halting hard by the station yard,
Aghast at the hut-flame nigh,
The warrigal yells, and flats and fells
Are loud with his dismal cry.

On the topmost peak of mountains bleak
The south wind sobs, and strays
Through moaning pine and turpentine,
And the rippling runnel ways;
And strong streams flow, and great mists go,
Where the warrigal starts to hear
The watch-dog's bark break sharp in the dark,
And flees like a phantom of fear!

The swift rains beat, and the thunders fleet
On the wings of the fiery gale,
And down in the glen of pool and fen,
The wild gums whistle and wail,
As over the plains and past the chains
Of waterholes glimmering deep,
The warrigal flies from the shepherd's cries,
And the clamour of dogs and sheep.

He roves through the lands of sultry sands,
He hunts in the iron range,
Untamed as surge of the far sea verge,
And fierce and fickle and strange.
The white man's track and the haunts of the black
He shuns, and shudders to see;
For his joy he tastes in lonely wastes
Where his mates are torrent and tree.
Henry Kendall
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Re: Yowie encounter near West Wyalong dark forrest area

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paulmcleod67 wrote:Yowie poems?
Thomas Henry Kendall (18 April 1839 – 1 August 1882) was a nineteenth-century Australian author and bush poet, who was particularly known for his poems and tales set in a natural environment setting.
Kendall was born in a settler's hut by Yackungarrah Creek in Yatte Yattah near Ulladulla, New South Wales. He was registered as Thomas Henry Kendall, but never appears to have used his first name. His three volumes of verse were all published under the name of "Henry Kendall".

The following poems of Kendall seem to me to be discussing aspects of the Yowie
The town William Tyrell went missing from is named after the bush poet,

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Paul,

Are these poems of Kendall accessible online anywhere, please? I guess I could search myself, but it looks like you've already found a link/links.
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Re: Yowie encounter near West Wyalong dark forrest area

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What a brilliant poem. So many great Australian writers have been largely forgotten now, it's good to see this being discussed and read in this day and age.
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All of Henry Kendall's poems can be accessed here. I get the impression that he had a few encounters with yowies in his Ulla Dulla days.

http://www.poemhunter.com/henry-kendall/poems/
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